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Robert Thomas COLEMAN - 1820 birth around Burwash
« on: Thursday 27 April 06 01:40 BST (UK) »
I am looking for information on an enigmatic character in my family tree.

He is believed to have been born 1820 in Burwash Sussex

He went by either Robert or Thomas so may have been christened one of the 2 names.

He is believed to have come to Australia some time in 1841.

It would be appreciated if anyone could shed some light on his birth/parents or could locate him on the 1841 census.

Thank you

John
Buckinghamshire - Dickins, Sinfield, Gascoigne
Devon - Swigg, Prinn
Durham - Spence
Rutland - Weston
Leicestershire - Bail, Matthews, Hancock, Rodwell
Glousctershire - Clissold, Butt
Norfolk - Holley, Drew, Wing, Childs, Gudgeon, Porter
Northampton - Boyes, Worron
London - Norton, Ross
Suffolk - Freeman, Fenton
Sussex - Coleman, Lewry, Susan
Warwickshire - Hanson, Baylis
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Re: Robert Thomas COLEMAN - 1820 birth around Burwash
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 27 April 06 19:39 BST (UK) »
COLEMAN, Thomas   Christening
   Gender:   Male
   Christening Date:   14 Sep 1828      Burwash, Sussex, England
   Father:   Thomas COLEMAN
   Mother:   Sarah
Source:   FHL Film 1067139      


This is the only one that I could find.
Regards,
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DUNNILL - Yorkshire & Worlwide  
PETTY - Shaftesbury, Dorset
WOOLRIDGE - Shaftesbury, Dorset
NEWSOM - London, Surrey, Sussex
FROST - Staffs,Notts, Derbys,Leics,London,Somerset
ROSSITER - Somerset
ROWE - London, Hertfordshire
COLVER - Leicestershire
DICKIE - Buteshire, Ayreshire, Renfrewshire
KIRKLEY - North Yorkshire

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Re: Robert Thomas COLEMAN - 1820 birth around Burwash
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 27 April 06 22:54 BST (UK) »
Thanks Inchworm

What about in the areas around Burwash?

Thank You

John
Buckinghamshire - Dickins, Sinfield, Gascoigne
Devon - Swigg, Prinn
Durham - Spence
Rutland - Weston
Leicestershire - Bail, Matthews, Hancock, Rodwell
Glousctershire - Clissold, Butt
Norfolk - Holley, Drew, Wing, Childs, Gudgeon, Porter
Northampton - Boyes, Worron
London - Norton, Ross
Suffolk - Freeman, Fenton
Sussex - Coleman, Lewry, Susan
Warwickshire - Hanson, Baylis
Yorkshire - Horsfall, Stott
Banff Scotland - Davidson
Tyrone Ireland - Robinson
Clare Ireland - Lenane, Ford

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Re: Robert Thomas COLEMAN - 1820 birth around Burwash
« Reply #3 on: Friday 28 April 06 13:57 BST (UK) »
Can't seem to find any others that fit with the date. Do you have any other details?
Here are the siblings of Thomas Coleman.
COLMAN, Jane   
   Christening Date:   23 Nov 1817   Burwash, Sussex, England
   Father:   Thomas COLMAN
   Mother:   Sarah

COLMAN, John   
   Christening Date:   4 Feb 1821   Burwash, Sussex, England
   Father:   Thomas COLMAN
   Mother:   Sarah

COLMAN, George   Christening
   Christening Date:   20 Oct 1822      Burwash, Sussex, England
   Father:   Thomas COLMAN
   Mother:   Sarah

COLEMAN, Elizabeth   
   Christening Date:   6 Nov 1825      Burwash, Sussex, England
   Father:   Thomas COLEMAN
   Mother:   Sarah

COLEMAN, Mary   
   Christening Date:   26 Jan 1832      Burwash, Sussex, England
   Father:   Thomas COLEMAN
   Mother:   Sarah

COLMAN, Anne   
   Christening Date:   16 Nov 1834      Burwash, Sussex, England
   Father:   Thomas COLMAN
   Mother:   Sarah


Regards,
Inchworm  ;D
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

DUNNILL - Yorkshire & Worlwide  
PETTY - Shaftesbury, Dorset
WOOLRIDGE - Shaftesbury, Dorset
NEWSOM - London, Surrey, Sussex
FROST - Staffs,Notts, Derbys,Leics,London,Somerset
ROSSITER - Somerset
ROWE - London, Hertfordshire
COLVER - Leicestershire
DICKIE - Buteshire, Ayreshire, Renfrewshire
KIRKLEY - North Yorkshire


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Re: Robert Thomas COLEMAN - 1820 birth around Burwash
« Reply #4 on: Friday 28 April 06 23:04 BST (UK) »
I seems strange that Thomas Coleman senior would give his fourth born son his name Thomas.

It may be possible that he was born earlier and christened at a later date. Or he may have forgotten his birthdate.

Thanks very much Inchworm - I will try and find some more details.

John
Buckinghamshire - Dickins, Sinfield, Gascoigne
Devon - Swigg, Prinn
Durham - Spence
Rutland - Weston
Leicestershire - Bail, Matthews, Hancock, Rodwell
Glousctershire - Clissold, Butt
Norfolk - Holley, Drew, Wing, Childs, Gudgeon, Porter
Northampton - Boyes, Worron
London - Norton, Ross
Suffolk - Freeman, Fenton
Sussex - Coleman, Lewry, Susan
Warwickshire - Hanson, Baylis
Yorkshire - Horsfall, Stott
Banff Scotland - Davidson
Tyrone Ireland - Robinson
Clare Ireland - Lenane, Ford

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Re: Robert Thomas COLEMAN - 1820 birth around Burwash
« Reply #5 on: Friday 28 April 06 23:36 BST (UK) »
i found this on the 1881 census
Thomas Colman abt 1829 Burwash, Sussex, England Head  Burwash  Sussex 

do you think it is possible that Robert Thomas may have been born around 1820 but not listed?

Where did you find the details?

Thank you

John
Buckinghamshire - Dickins, Sinfield, Gascoigne
Devon - Swigg, Prinn
Durham - Spence
Rutland - Weston
Leicestershire - Bail, Matthews, Hancock, Rodwell
Glousctershire - Clissold, Butt
Norfolk - Holley, Drew, Wing, Childs, Gudgeon, Porter
Northampton - Boyes, Worron
London - Norton, Ross
Suffolk - Freeman, Fenton
Sussex - Coleman, Lewry, Susan
Warwickshire - Hanson, Baylis
Yorkshire - Horsfall, Stott
Banff Scotland - Davidson
Tyrone Ireland - Robinson
Clare Ireland - Lenane, Ford

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Re: Robert Thomas COLEMAN - 1820 birth around Burwash
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 29 April 06 19:35 BST (UK) »
Found the details on the British Isles Vital Records Index.
Regards,
Inchworm  :)
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

DUNNILL - Yorkshire & Worlwide  
PETTY - Shaftesbury, Dorset
WOOLRIDGE - Shaftesbury, Dorset
NEWSOM - London, Surrey, Sussex
FROST - Staffs,Notts, Derbys,Leics,London,Somerset
ROSSITER - Somerset
ROWE - London, Hertfordshire
COLVER - Leicestershire
DICKIE - Buteshire, Ayreshire, Renfrewshire
KIRKLEY - North Yorkshire

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Re: Robert Thomas COLEMAN - 1820 birth around Burwash
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 18 September 16 15:02 BST (UK) »
Afternoon J Dickens. I have just started researching the Coleman family tree which has lead me to the Burwash area. The name Thomas appears a number of times in my research. The Thomas you are looking for may actually have been the father (also a Thomas)  of the one referred to. Did you manage to get any further with your search as descendants of his also went to Australia and I am looking to trace them.

Any advice greatly appreciated from any others reading this post from a newbie of tracing relatives that went to Australia around 1912 ish I think? Thanks

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Re: Robert Thomas COLEMAN - 1820 birth around Burwash
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 27 September 16 14:43 BST (UK) »
Unfortunately I have made no further progress with this line of the family tree.
This seems quite elusive. Details that I do now:
- most of the children birth certs verify Burwash as place of birth
- believed to have arrived in NSW in the early 1840 according to death cert
- no evidence of being a convict.

Sorry I cannot be of ore help


John
Buckinghamshire - Dickins, Sinfield, Gascoigne
Devon - Swigg, Prinn
Durham - Spence
Rutland - Weston
Leicestershire - Bail, Matthews, Hancock, Rodwell
Glousctershire - Clissold, Butt
Norfolk - Holley, Drew, Wing, Childs, Gudgeon, Porter
Northampton - Boyes, Worron
London - Norton, Ross
Suffolk - Freeman, Fenton
Sussex - Coleman, Lewry, Susan
Warwickshire - Hanson, Baylis
Yorkshire - Horsfall, Stott
Banff Scotland - Davidson
Tyrone Ireland - Robinson
Clare Ireland - Lenane, Ford