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SHEA
« on: Friday 12 May 06 16:59 BST (UK) »
Hi
Looking for information on my Shea decendants-

Cornelius born abt 1867 Whitechapel. Moved to Canada about 1885. Died 1938.
  1st wife    Annie ? b. 1869 London. died 1898
  children -  Nelson b. 1890
                 Garnet b. 1896 died 1956.
  Garnet received an MBE. Nelson had 2 sons - Omar Cornelius and Cecil (both killed in 2nd war - Cecil was in Canadian light infantry and reached Lieutenant).

   2nd wife    Julia Dempsey b.1878 Ireland
   children -  George Cornelius b.1901
                    Norah Marion 1903
They lived Kingston Ont.
Would be grateful for any info.
regards
Pugs
SUTTON  Dagenham,Essex/ West Ham
AYLETT Dagenham,Essex
BARKER  Dagenham/Barking, Essex
PHILLIPS Suffolk/Stratford/Tillingham, Essex/Bromley, London/West Ham/Manor Park
COOPER Poplar London
LAMB Essex
HALL Stratford on Avon
SHEA Stratford/Whitechapel/Canada/Bantry Bay
MURPHY Cork
LANE Cork
MAHONEY Cork
O'MAHONEY Cork
SPENCE Cork
HARDIMAN London

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Re: SHEA
« Reply #1 on: Friday 12 May 06 18:26 BST (UK) »
Hi Pugs,

Here's a birth registration for:

Garnet Shea
Date of Birth:  May 30, 1896
Father:  Cornelius Shea
Mother:  Annie Thomas
Rank or Profession of Father:  Workman
Informant:  Annie Shea, housekeeper, Kingston

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Gandley (but known as Stanley in Canada)- Ireland to Birmingham<br />Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham<br />Shorter - Surrey<br />Dyer - Devon<br />Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland<br />Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Gloucestershire

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Re: SHEA
« Reply #2 on: Friday 12 May 06 18:31 BST (UK) »
Nelson Thomas
Born:  February 16, 1890
Kingston, Ontario
Father:  Cornelius Shea
Mother:  Annie Thomas
Occupation at time of birth:  Groom
Address at time of birth:  Bagot Street, Kingston

It is a delayed registration signed by the father, Cornelius in 1925.

Also on this registration is the marriage information of Cornelius & Annie

Place of parents marriage:  Toronto, Ontario
Date:  September, 1888

Karen
Gandley (but known as Stanley in Canada)- Ireland to Birmingham<br />Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham<br />Shorter - Surrey<br />Dyer - Devon<br />Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland<br />Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Gloucestershire

Who all came to Canada in a little row boat, clap clap, clap your hands!!

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Re: SHEA
« Reply #3 on: Friday 12 May 06 18:34 BST (UK) »
Hi Pugs,

How lucky - you seem to know so much about them already!  I see Karen is already hard at work as usual.  ;D.  

Garnet Shea served in WWI - you can find him in this database

http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/020106_e.html

There is much more to the file than the two pages that are scanned and on-line.  When you find his entry there is a link that says "how to order copies" - they are well-worth ordering, the cost is fairly reasonable.  

Since Omar and Cecil were both killed in WWII their records are also public access (provided they were both in Cdn Forces).  You can order copies of those as well.  You need to send a signed letter to Archives with their names, ID numbers, and any other identifying details.  Full instructions here: http://www.collectionscanada.ca/genealogy/022-909.007-e.html

Have you found them in the Canadian census yet?  The 1901 and 1991 are both online at http://automatedgenealogy.com .  The transcription of the 1901 is complete, but volunteers are still working on the 1911, so if you don't find them right away keep checking back.  

Hope that helps!

MJP
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Eagle (Yorkshire), Prior (Berkshire), Buckland (Nottinghamshire),
Short (Devon), Sinclair (Caithness, Scotland), Patterson (Co. Tyrone, Ireland)


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Re: SHEA
« Reply #4 on: Friday 12 May 06 18:47 BST (UK) »
Marriage

Cornelius Andrew Shea
Julia Dempsey
Date:  August 16, 1899
Kingston, Ontario
Registration No. 006240
Microfilm #98

Karen
Gandley (but known as Stanley in Canada)- Ireland to Birmingham<br />Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham<br />Shorter - Surrey<br />Dyer - Devon<br />Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland<br />Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Gloucestershire

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Re: SHEA
« Reply #5 on: Friday 12 May 06 18:53 BST (UK) »
Here's a birth/death registration for:

Baby girl Shea
Born:  August 22, 1900
Father:  Cornelius Shea
Mother:  Julia Dempsey

She was a stillborn baby.  The address listed is RMC (Royal Military College) Cottage, Pittsburgh.  Informant is Cornelius Shea.  Frontenac County.


Gandley (but known as Stanley in Canada)- Ireland to Birmingham<br />Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham<br />Shorter - Surrey<br />Dyer - Devon<br />Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland<br />Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Gloucestershire

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Re: SHEA
« Reply #6 on: Friday 12 May 06 19:28 BST (UK) »
Hi pugs,

The address of the Royal Military College is interesting (the family was also there at the time of Garnet's enlisting in the war).  The "Pittsburgh" part of the address refers to Pittsburgh Township, Frontenac County.  Nowadays the RMC would be considered to be in Kingston (which is also in Frontenac County).  Here is the website of the RMC:

http://www.rmc.ca/home_e.html

Maybe one of the census records will reveal that Cornelius worked for the College?  I dont know if they would have any records, but it might be an avenue worth checking. 

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Eagle (Yorkshire), Prior (Berkshire), Buckland (Nottinghamshire),
Short (Devon), Sinclair (Caithness, Scotland), Patterson (Co. Tyrone, Ireland)

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Re: SHEA
« Reply #7 on: Friday 12 May 06 19:31 BST (UK) »
Found him in the 1911 census.  He is living at RMC, he lists his year of immigration as 1886 from England as well Julia lists her year of immigration as 1886 from Ireland.  Garnet, George and Marion are living with them.  

Cornelius, 44 years old - servant
Julia, 36 years old

Did you have the 1911 info?

Gandley (but known as Stanley in Canada)- Ireland to Birmingham<br />Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham<br />Shorter - Surrey<br />Dyer - Devon<br />Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland<br />Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Gloucestershire

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Re: SHEA
« Reply #8 on: Friday 12 May 06 19:32 BST (UK) »
Hi Martha,

I couldn't find him through his proper name, so did a search of RMC and found him in the 1911.  You are right, that's were he is living and working.

Karen
Gandley (but known as Stanley in Canada)- Ireland to Birmingham<br />Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham<br />Shorter - Surrey<br />Dyer - Devon<br />Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland<br />Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Gloucestershire

Who all came to Canada in a little row boat, clap clap, clap your hands!!