any info on Ellen KAY or Ellen O'FLAHERTY

[Ann E]

 Hi Janice
You have done it again thank you so much for all the trouble you have been to, now I think I am getting somewhere,
I will look in to the other links ,when I get time, it is half term & I have my grandson here!!!
By the way I did know of the IOW memorials( as I come from there) & I can highly recommend the IOW FHS should you want to use it,it free index  to B1837-1972, M 1837 -200.D  1837- 1971, it also has loads of other info & lots of links to other useful web sites .     Thanks AnnE  < www.isle-of-wight-fhs.co.uk/index.htm >

[MJP]

Ellen's third marriage:

#008377-19 (Brant Co.)
Groom: Robert Hunter
Age: 51
Residence: Galt, Ontario
Place of Birth: Perth, Scotland
Bachelor
Occupation: Dancing Master 
Father: Robert Hunter
Mother: Isabell Smith

Bride: Ellen O'Flaherty
Age: 54
Residence: Dundas, Ontario
Place of Birth: Isle of Wight, England
Widow
Occupation: Housekeeper
Father: Joseph Lacey
Mother: Jane Shearstone

Winesses: Mrs. G. A. Woodside, Brantford, and Mrs. R. Woodington, Brantford
Date and Place of Marriage: 24 Nov 1919 at Brantford
Clergyman: G. A. Woodside, Presbyterian

The License was issued on 8 Nov 1919 and cost them $5.00 

MJP

[Ann E]

Thank you MJP, Brilliant, so pleased you have found her, I have looked ! But not hard enough,Where did you find her, as it may help me find her daughters marriage !
 thanks again AnnE

[MJP]

Hi Ann E,

I have a subscription to ancestry.ca, which has digitized all the Ontario BMD records. 

I have looked for Leila's marriage, but with no luck. But marriages are only available up to 1922 right now (due to privacy laws).  She could easily have married after that.

But here is Alice's marriage and death:

#004192-18 (York Co.)
Groom: James Gibson
Age: 55
Residence: Niagara-on-the-Lake
Place of Birth: Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland
Widower
Occupation: Teamster
Religious Denomination: Presbyterian
Father: John Gibson
Mother: Agnes Clark

Bride: Alice Kay
Age: 40
Residence: Niagara-on-the-Lake
Place of Birth: Embro, Scotland
Widow [then why is her name Kay?]
Occupation: (blank)
Religious Denomination: Presbyterian
Father: Marshall Flaherty
Mother: Ellen Lacey

Winesses: Dorothy Dunn, 90 Winchester St., Toronto, and Margaret H. Brown, 92 Winchester St. Toronto
Date and Place of Marriage: 15 Aug 1918 at 92 Winchester St. Toronto
Clergyman: Geo. M. Brown, 92 Winchester St. Toronto, Methodist

License Issued 15 Aug 1918

#007417-20 (York Co.)
Alice Gibson
Place of Death: Tor Gen Hospital [=Toronto General]
Female
Scotch origin
Married
Age: 42
Place of Birth: Scotland
Occupation: (blank)
Name of Father: (blank)
Name of Mother: (blank)
Informant: James Gibson, Husband, R(?) 452 Richmond W.
Place of burial: Toronto [well that's informative no isn't it!    ]
Undertaker: H. R. Ranks, 455 Queen W.
Date of Death: 11 Oct 1920
Dates attended by medical practitioner: from 4 Oct to 11 Oct
Cause of Death: Intestinal Paralysis
Secondary Cause: Peritonitis and Haemorrhage, 3 days
Operation preceded death - 8 Oct 1920, but no autopsy
Physician: R. V. B. Shior(?), Tor Gen Hospital

MJP

[Ann E]

Thanks again MPJ    spot on.
As for Leila I looked up her death that Janice gave me & found

 Married women may be listed twice in the index; under their maiden name and under their married name.
for example: Brown Sarah [maiden name entry] Wright Sarah (Brown) [married name entry]
 I will contact them to see if they know any more.

Alice was  born at new Barracks Johnston Terrace Edinburgh.  19.9. 1874  her father was William KAY,
Ellen  her mother left him, I am not surprised she left him according to his army & medical records he was a bit of a lad! was in prison three times &  AWOL  I think he liked wine women & song ! She  ran off to Canada with him a thrice  widowed Irish tailor who was blind in one eye, he was from the IOW, who name was Maurice O'Flaherty her step father.
She knocked 4 years off her age, ( unless she forgot how old she was !)
Poor thing she was only married two years, I now know why I couldn't’t find her in the census for Wentworth Dundas, I will look that up now, oh  I see she was a widow, that may be a problem , I will look any way,  She may have married  a KAY,!! Oh well it makes  life interesting doesn't it .
Thank you once again , it all makes interesting  reading
AnnE

[Ann E]

Hi MJP I know you have helped a lot but ! please could do a look up ? I think ? I have found Kate KAY 1 st marriage ?
  I looked on Ancestry , but I am not a member  So please

 Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1922
Birth, Marriage, & Death
.  Name:  Alice Kay
Spouse:  Alfred Hudson
Father:  Wm Kay
Birth:  year - location
More:  See all information [/color]
 Thanks AnnE

[Ann E]

MJP  NOT Kate but Alice .AnnE

[MJP]

Sorry Ann E, that Alice Kay was born in 1899, mother's name Alice Holt.   

[Ann E]

Thanks MJP  it was worth a try. Ann E