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SA Look up
« on: Wednesday 20 December 06 04:28 GMT (UK) »
Bridget Elizabeth Horrigan married Henry Johnson 10/12/1906, Henry was aged 38 and Bridget was aged 34 (divorced)
Henry's father was listed as Henry teague
What I am looking for is Henry Johnson's birth and his parents names, I am thinking that his mother might of remarried and that is why he has a diffrent name to his father.
Any help would be appreciated.

(Bridget and Henry married twice, once before 1906, Bridget first husband dissappeared and so she presumed he was dead and remarried then he turned back up)

thank you
Megan
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Re: SA Look up
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 20 December 06 05:08 GMT (UK) »
Do you have  a mother's name for Henry? I cannot find anything likely for him in the SA births.  No Henry Teague as a father to anyone - some with Henry as a middle name.

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« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 20 December 06 05:19 GMT (UK) »
And perhaps we should mention that on the first marriage - as Johnson - he named his father as Richard Johnson.  This may help.

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Re: SA Look up
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 20 December 06 06:02 GMT (UK) »
Could this be her first Marriage:

Groom: Savage John William.
Age:25.s
date:6 Dec 1892.
Bridge: Elizabeth Horrigan.
Age:21.s
Born: 4 Dec 1867.
Place: Adelaide
Grooms (F): William Savage.
Grooms (m): Anne Maria Ward.
Bridge (f): Martin Origan.
Book/Page: 173/786.


Groom: Johnson  Henry.
Age:31.s
Date: 12 Jan 1901.
Bride:Bridget Elizabeth Savage.
Age:28.w
Grooms (F):Richhard Johnson.
Bride (F): Martin Origan.
Place: Registry Office  Adelaide.
Book/Page: 206/150.
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Re: SA Look up
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 20 December 06 06:54 GMT (UK) »
Hello  there

the  marriage  was  recorded  twice under  both  names  of Teague  and Johnson  under  the X symbol  as  he  johnson  used the  name  henry  teague  as an  alias

his maritial  status says  he is  divorced


hope  this  helps

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Re: SA Look up
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 20 December 06 08:15 GMT (UK) »
hello   there

from   the  SA Indexs

births

Wille Horrigan 2/5/1890 Hindmarsh X 458/239
father William Whiteman  Mother Bridget Horrigan

Willie Horrigan Whiteman 2/5/1890 Hindmarsh X 458/239
father William Whiteman  mother Bridget Horrigan

Myrtle Annie Savage  19/11/1893 Brompton Park 533/143
father John William Savage mother Elizabeth Horrigan

Henry Johnson 24/1/1896 Adelaide 577/422
father Henry Johnson mother Elizabeth Horrigan

Ivy Hannah Savage 16/8/1897 Adelaide 608/446
father John William Savage   mother Elizabeth Horrigan

Leslie Claude Johnson  8/2/1899 Bowden on  the Hill X  635/193
faher Henry Savage   mother Elizabeth Horrigan

Leslie Claude Savage 8/2/1899 Bowden on  the Hill X635/193
father Henry Savage mother Elizabeth Horrigan

Vera Doris Johnson 5/7/1902 Brompton Park 679/235
father Henry Johnson mother Bridget Elizabeth Horrigan

Clarence Frank Johnson   26/2/1904 Brompton Park 726/93
father Henry Johnson mother Bridget Horrigan


quite a  muddle 

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I live in Townsville researching
TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
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Re: SA Look up
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 20 December 06 21:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi everyone, thank you for your help, it is all very confusing isn't it.
What I Know is that John William Savage disappeared early on in the marriage to Bridget and then she remarried.
If John Savage disappeared right after Myrtle Annie was born then she would of had to wait seven years to declare him dead which adds up to her first marriage to Henry Johnson in 1901.  So what I think is that she shacked up with Henry Johnson and all the following children are really his but Bridget has used Savage as the father because she might have been embarrassed because she was not married to him, What do you all think?

Does anyone know if there is away to find records  of someone being declared dead? And what about divorce records, where could I find them?

Family stories tell me that  when John Savage turned back up he remarried and started a new family himself. (My Grandmother was Myrtle) so this branch of the family would be my rellies too.

Is there any record of a Henry Johnson being born in SA with the father as Richard?

I love a family  scandal and I look forward to solving this one.
Thank you for all your Help

Megan
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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 21 December 06 00:14 GMT (UK) »
Hello there Cookey


no  other  births  for  father being listed as John William Savage upt to 1906  nor  another marriage  up  to 1916

bridget  married  savage  16/12/1892

now  unless  he shot  through  pretty  well after  the ceremony  there  must be a  good  chance  that  Myrtle is a Savage having been born  19/11/1893

follow  my  thoughts :D

regards jenn
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SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
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Re: SA Look up
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 21 December 06 01:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jenn, Yes I was thinking that Myrtle was a savage but the rest might be Johnson's including the ones that have savage as a surname for example Ivy Savage born in 1897 after Henry Johnson born 1896.
It is all very confusing.
Interesting to know that John Savage didnt marry again (well before 1916 anyway).
Thank you for your help, I will keep digging.
Megan
Harris - Denbury Devon
Wotton - Ideford Devon
Chamberlain - Kent
Burgess - Sussex
Savage - South Australia
Wilks - South Australia
Horrigan - South Australia
Hodgson - Lancashire
Martin - St Stithians, Cornwall
Mathers - Liverpool
Riley/Royle - Lancashire