Author Topic: Ashford Street, Shorditch - help needed  (Read 2940 times)

Offline JanetteO

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 110
  • Susan Bailey born Chester, Cheshire father Edward
    • View Profile
Ashford Street, Shorditch - help needed
« on: Friday 08 June 07 23:35 BST (UK) »
Hi i've got a wedding certificate that shows a family living at 3 Ashford Street, Shoreditch in December 1902 and for the life of me I can't work out where this family are in 1901 or any proceeding year, sadly they're a family that at some point have changed their names for some unknown reason.

Can anyone tell me roughly where I might find Ashford Street on the 1901 Census as (fingers crossed) they might be there and their names have just been recorded wrongly.......

The wedding was for a John White Hankin (born approx 1882) and the certificate states that he is a stonemason and that his father is John Hankin. By the time John White Hankin was a father the Hankin was dropped and never used again....... so I really need to link with the right family.

John White Hankin married Ellen Jane Hale.

Any help in solving this mystery would be fantastic as I'm gonna have a big bald patch soon.

Jan
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
 Okeman, Oakeman, Oakman, Smith, Allwright, Carrington, Skelton, Skilton, Watts, Morrell, Bailey, Griffen, White, Hammett, Bird, Canham, Carey, Carter, Griffen, Borer, Budd, Almond, Archer, Kemp, Bluett, Aldridge, Kerr, Elliott, Gosling, Moser, Robson, Austin, Ward, Jones, Tatt, Bayford, Overall, Greenham, Coffey, Westrop, Wyatt, Egan, Oickle, Newman, Stanley, Norton, Gore

Offline ricky1

  • Deceased † Rest In Peace
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • ********
  • Posts: 14,000
  • Mum and Dad
    • View Profile
Re: Ashford Street, Shorditch - help needed
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 09 June 07 00:00 BST (UK) »
Hi Jan
3 Ashford Street
Albert Balby head mar 23 sheet glass riviter London Holborn
Nathanie? "  wife mar 23                               Not Known
Maria        "  dau u/m 3                                  Brighton Sussex
Albert       "  son u/m 2                                   London Hoxton
Charles     "  son u/m 5 months                                 "

Kate Boorer head wid 49 boxmaker                           "
Florence  "    dau u/m 16 staitonary ???                     "
Hettie       "  dau u/m 13                                London Finsbury
Joseph Millar lodger u/m  28 ??? pressman       "     Bethnal grrem
Herman Hilan?    "  mar 32 glass blower           Germany
Harold C Anderson  lodger u/m 45 wood carver  Denmark

George Stoneman head mar 21 moulding maker London Hoxton
Annie          "         wife mar 20 paperbox maker        "    St Lukes

Joseph Richardson head mar 39 tailor              London Finsbury
Bridget         "          wife mar 38                             "    Aldergate
Susan           "          dau u/m 7                               "    Finsbury
John             "          son u/m 4                                "    Hoxton
Catherine      "          dau u/m 2                                "       "
William Lowe boarder mar 50  engineer           Not Known

All these are living at 3 Ashford Street, Shoreditch, Hoxton Old Town, London

Rg13/ 274
folio 31
Page 17 & 18

ricky
Ricky (1954 - 2010)

Harby,Garton,Drury,Duncombe,Booth,Catton,Barker, Kirkby, Wilson. Lincolnshire, <br />Also Murkin's, Jeffery,Pettitt,Carter, from Suffolk/Cambridgeshire boarder<br />Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline JanetteO

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 110
  • Susan Bailey born Chester, Cheshire father Edward
    • View Profile
Re: Ashford Street, Shorditch - help needed
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 09 June 07 00:07 BST (UK) »
Wow that was fast work, thanks for that. I can't believe yet another brickwall, but at least with your help I can cross that idea off my list....

Do you know if there is a way of searching the census of 1901 by profession? I have full access to Ancestry and I think I'll go to that page and work backwards and forth to see if they are still in the area... sounds like a boarding house doesnt it.

Thanks for responding so fast as I really wasn't expecting that

Jan
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
 Okeman, Oakeman, Oakman, Smith, Allwright, Carrington, Skelton, Skilton, Watts, Morrell, Bailey, Griffen, White, Hammett, Bird, Canham, Carey, Carter, Griffen, Borer, Budd, Almond, Archer, Kemp, Bluett, Aldridge, Kerr, Elliott, Gosling, Moser, Robson, Austin, Ward, Jones, Tatt, Bayford, Overall, Greenham, Coffey, Westrop, Wyatt, Egan, Oickle, Newman, Stanley, Norton, Gore

Offline ricky1

  • Deceased † Rest In Peace
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • ********
  • Posts: 14,000
  • Mum and Dad
    • View Profile
Re: Ashford Street, Shorditch - help needed
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 09 June 07 00:15 BST (UK) »
Hi Jan

Not sure if you can search the 1901 by profession. had a look and I carnt see them , not with the jobs you say that they had

ricky
Ricky (1954 - 2010)

Harby,Garton,Drury,Duncombe,Booth,Catton,Barker, Kirkby, Wilson. Lincolnshire, <br />Also Murkin's, Jeffery,Pettitt,Carter, from Suffolk/Cambridgeshire boarder<br />Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


Offline PaulineJ

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 16,312
    • View Profile
Re: Ashford Street, Shorditch - help needed
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 09 June 07 00:16 BST (UK) »

You can search 1901 by occupation at http://www.1901censusonline.com/

Pauline
All census look up transcriptions are Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/
======================================
We are not a search engine. We are human beings.

Offline JanetteO

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 110
  • Susan Bailey born Chester, Cheshire father Edward
    • View Profile
Re: Ashford Street, Shorditch - help needed
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 09 June 07 10:55 BST (UK) »
Hi Ricky,

I thought I'd update you as you've been so kind to help.

Having pulled the certificates back out, one name jumped off the page to me thanks to your help.

George Henry Stoneman was a witness at the wedding. So I'm now wondering if Geoge might be a cousin of John White Hankin... George's wife Annie Hawkins Deeks family sadly put the married couple up ten years earlier (who knows Hawkins could be mistaken for Hankin if you squint your eyes ::) so to trace directly to the census before and know which George he is, is proving a bit difficult at the moment but I'm sure I'll get there in the end.

You were right about their being no stonemasons, I went through the whole 37 pages and didn't find one single stonemason. Funnily by 1908 his son's birth cert shows him as a general labourer but on his death certificate 1946 he is a stonemason again :-\

Thanks again

Hi Pauline,

Thanks for you link. I really begrudge sites sometimes, I'm fully paid up on Ancestry and Find my past and then for a simple thing like an occupation someone else tries to make us put our hands in our pockets, there is obviously good money to be made out of us family historians.

Jan
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
 Okeman, Oakeman, Oakman, Smith, Allwright, Carrington, Skelton, Skilton, Watts, Morrell, Bailey, Griffen, White, Hammett, Bird, Canham, Carey, Carter, Griffen, Borer, Budd, Almond, Archer, Kemp, Bluett, Aldridge, Kerr, Elliott, Gosling, Moser, Robson, Austin, Ward, Jones, Tatt, Bayford, Overall, Greenham, Coffey, Westrop, Wyatt, Egan, Oickle, Newman, Stanley, Norton, Gore

Offline ricky1

  • Deceased † Rest In Peace
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • ********
  • Posts: 14,000
  • Mum and Dad
    • View Profile
Re: Ashford Street, Shorditch - help needed
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 09 June 07 11:46 BST (UK) »
Hi Jan

Glad some of it helped

ricky
Ricky (1954 - 2010)

Harby,Garton,Drury,Duncombe,Booth,Catton,Barker, Kirkby, Wilson. Lincolnshire, <br />Also Murkin's, Jeffery,Pettitt,Carter, from Suffolk/Cambridgeshire boarder<br />Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline ricky1

  • Deceased † Rest In Peace
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • ********
  • Posts: 14,000
  • Mum and Dad
    • View Profile
Re: Ashford Street, Shorditch - help needed
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 09 June 07 12:06 BST (UK) »
Hi Jan

On the 1891 census there is this family

John Hankin head mar 33 stonedresser London St Giles
Margaret  "  wife mar 25                                     "
William     "  son u/m 14                                      "
Margaret "   dau u/m 11                         London St Clements
Mary A    "   dau u/m 9                                        "
John       "   son u/m 6                            London St Giles
Annie      "   dau u/m 4                           London Holborn
Thomas   "  son u/m 2                                        "
living at 15 Emerald Street, St Andrew and St George, Holborn, London

Rg12/ 219
folio 40
page 27

Might be worth keeping for future reference

ricky
Ricky (1954 - 2010)

Harby,Garton,Drury,Duncombe,Booth,Catton,Barker, Kirkby, Wilson. Lincolnshire, <br />Also Murkin's, Jeffery,Pettitt,Carter, from Suffolk/Cambridgeshire boarder<br />Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline Johnathan7

  • RootsChat Pioneer
  • *
  • Posts: 1
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
William Almond - help needed
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 29 January 14 04:38 GMT (UK) »
 JanetteO,

I read one of your posts which spoke about William Almond born about 1768.  This is my line also and would like to talk to you about it.