Frederick Hopper Wallace

[oberon]

I've hit a brick wall with Frederick Hopper Wallace (mainly because he moved to Shanghai in about 1890). I can't find him on IGI and since I don't have a birth date or place I have been unable to find him in any census returns although I do know he was in the country in 1885 as his son's birth was registered and I have a copy of the birth certificate.

I know that he married Emily Illegible (but might be Mayers) and that they had Dare Frederick Alexander Wallace b. 1 June 1885 Southampton d. 8 June 1938 Shanghai who married Hilda Doreen Unknown and that they had Joyce Marion Wallace b. 3 Jan 1923 d. 24 Jan 2006 and also Ronald Dare Wallace dates unknown both born in Shanghai (Ronald comes from his will which I found at National Archives).

I'm waiting for a copy of the probate of Frederick Hopper Wallace's will from National Archives which indicates that he died, or at least probate was granted, in 1926.

Hope this rings some bells because my forehead is getting bruised trying to break through the wall!

David

[lizdb]

Getting the birth cert of Dare (bn 1885) would give his mother's maiden name, and therefore clarify who Frederick married. (or is that what you already have where her name is illegible?)

modified - just re read your post and you do have a copy of the birth cert - sorry!

[Daisypetal]

Hi,

It's an unusual name so I wonder if this could be him

Birth
Frederick Hopper WALLIS  Dec Q 1848  Stepney  v.2  p.513


IGI
Frederick Hopper WALLIS
Christening:  19 Jan 1849   Saint Thomas, Stepney, London
Father:  Frederick John WALLIS
Mother:  Jemima 



1851  HO107/1552  f.901  p.23  Stepney, Middlesex
20 Princes St

Fredk J WALLIS   Head  33  H M Customs  Middx Whitechapel
Jemima              Wife  30                          "  "        "  "
Jessie E             Daur   4                            "  "   Stepney
Fredk H               Son   2                           "  "      "  "
Catherine E        Daur    6m                        "  "      "  "
Eliza JUDD         Servt  18  Gen Serv           Essex East Haon?



(transcribed as WALLIN)
1861  RG9/1055  f.26  p.47  West Ham All Saints, Essex
Romford Road

Frederic J WALLIS   Head  43  Assist Surveyor HMS Customs  Middx Whitechapel
Jemima                  Wife  40  Principal Ladies School               "  "        "  "
Jessie E                 Daur  14  Scholar                                    "  "    Stepney
Frederic H                Son  12      "  "                                      "  "        "  "
Catherine E            Daur  10      "  "                                       "  "        "  "
Edith                     Daur    8      "  "                                      "  "        "  "
Gertrude                Daur    5      "  "                                   Essex Stratford
Duncan B                 Son   3      "  "                                      "  "        "  "
+ 2 teachers and lots of boarder/scholars.



1871  RG10/973  f.130&131  p.22&23  Herne, Kent
Town: Herne Bay
Parade " Belle Vue House College"

Jemima WALLIS  Head     W   50  School Mistress    London
Fred H                 Son  Unm  22   Army                     "  "
Gertrude             Daur  Unm  15   Scholar               Essex
Duncan B             Son          13   Scholar               Essex
+ various boarders, teachers and servants


What do you think?

Regards
Daisy

[GeoffE]

Nice one Daisy!

Will there be a party to celebrate your 1000 posts?

[Daisypetal]

Thanks GeoffE 

Wow 1000 posts

I'm sure it was only a few weeks ago when I hit 100, posts that is not years although time does seem to disappear while I'm on RootsChat

Daisy

[oberon]

Thanks Daisy that looks really promising. I've got his will and he was a master mariner which ties in quite nicely with Frederick John being in customs.

fantastic piece of sleuthing!

[annabanana1]

i am related to hopper. my father is ronald dare wallace. still alive at 80. his father was frederick dare wallace

anna

[annabanana1]

ronald dares mother was hilda coutts-boyd. her brother was leslie, caught by the japenese. Why were you looking for them? are you related

[annabanana1]

I can fill in a lot of holes David. Ronald was born in 1930. he also has a sister called naomi. older than joyce. Their father died of cancer in 1936 or seven. he dropped dad off in england. Hilda fled to usa and remarried.
anna