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old German profession: Tabo?????b????meister?
« on: Sunday 19 August 07 23:11 BST (UK) »
I have an old document written in German and I can't figure out the profession of my ggg-grandfather (1807-1890), who seems to have lived all his life in Flensburg.

I'm almost sure it begins T-A-B-O, then about 6 letters later there is a B (maybe a B-R-I), then about 5 letters after said B, I'm pretty sure it says "meister". So:

 T-A-B-O-?-?-?-?-?-?-B-R-I-?-?-?-M-E-I-S-T-E-R

I've looked at lists of old German and Danish professions, but nothing quite fits yet.

Any guesses?
ENDSOR: Tamworth/Manchester
LAMB: Leeds/Manchester
SMITH: Manchester
HOLMES: Kirk Ireton/Manchester
WORTHINGTON: Middleton/Manchester
SHORROCK: Manchester
BROOKS: Wilmslow/Knutsford
By marriage in Manchester: BAXENDALE, DODD, EYERS, FIRTH, FISHER, FO(R)STER, HARGREAVES, J(A/E)RVIS, McKEOWN, OSBALDESTON, PICKWELL, PODMORE, SCHOFIELD, SHALLCROSS, STONES, WALKER
GREY, DOYLE, GOLDEN, MONAHAN: Ireland
HAWE, FRENEY, NARY: Co. Kilkenny
DONOHO and variants: Co. Longford

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Re: old German profession: Tabo?????b????meister?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 19 August 07 23:15 BST (UK) »
Hallo, IGS

Could you scan and post the section of the document so the handwriting whizzes can see the original?

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Re: old German profession: Tabo?????b????meister?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 19 August 07 23:58 BST (UK) »
Soon - soon - I'm at a technological low point right now - thanks!
ENDSOR: Tamworth/Manchester
LAMB: Leeds/Manchester
SMITH: Manchester
HOLMES: Kirk Ireton/Manchester
WORTHINGTON: Middleton/Manchester
SHORROCK: Manchester
BROOKS: Wilmslow/Knutsford
By marriage in Manchester: BAXENDALE, DODD, EYERS, FIRTH, FISHER, FO(R)STER, HARGREAVES, J(A/E)RVIS, McKEOWN, OSBALDESTON, PICKWELL, PODMORE, SCHOFIELD, SHALLCROSS, STONES, WALKER
GREY, DOYLE, GOLDEN, MONAHAN: Ireland
HAWE, FRENEY, NARY: Co. Kilkenny
DONOHO and variants: Co. Longford

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Re: old German profession: Tabo?????b????meister?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 20 August 07 00:39 BST (UK) »
I know the feeling!

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Re: old German profession: Tabo?????b????meister?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 20 August 07 01:58 BST (UK) »
While we're on the topic, this page comes in handy for figuring out old German occupations:

http://www.tr62.de/occupations/groups.htm

But I still can't find mine - I also have it spelled out equally illegibly in Danish, but it starts the same, I think: "Taba???????"
ENDSOR: Tamworth/Manchester
LAMB: Leeds/Manchester
SMITH: Manchester
HOLMES: Kirk Ireton/Manchester
WORTHINGTON: Middleton/Manchester
SHORROCK: Manchester
BROOKS: Wilmslow/Knutsford
By marriage in Manchester: BAXENDALE, DODD, EYERS, FIRTH, FISHER, FO(R)STER, HARGREAVES, J(A/E)RVIS, McKEOWN, OSBALDESTON, PICKWELL, PODMORE, SCHOFIELD, SHALLCROSS, STONES, WALKER
GREY, DOYLE, GOLDEN, MONAHAN: Ireland
HAWE, FRENEY, NARY: Co. Kilkenny
DONOHO and variants: Co. Longford

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Re: old German profession: Tabo?????b????meister?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 20 August 07 07:51 BST (UK) »
Hi IGS,

hope you manage to post a scan soon, so we can have a look, but in the meantime, a quick thought:

Are you sure it is a B and not an ß (scharfes-S, or sz, pronounced ss) which looks very similar ?


that is a wonderful site you've found there; such a pity they haven't got to T yet  :(

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Re: old German profession: Tabo?????b????meister?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 20 August 07 08:32 BST (UK) »
Some more old German occupations, including Ts, but not yours.

http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~george/oldgermanprofessions.html#Tabagist

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Re: old German profession: Tabo?????b????meister?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 20 August 07 08:40 BST (UK) »
Some more:

http://www.andreas-karstens.de/Berufe/berufe.htm

It's only in German but if you click on the left on "Alte Berufe" and then Weitere Berufe is a pull down menu, you can click on "T" or whatever.
Translating it afterwards is probably not a problem on this forum.

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Pfisterer (Fisher): West Riding Yks 1850-1875
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Pfisterer, Heinzmann, Künzelsau, Baden-Württemberg
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Schluchterer: Künzelsau, B-W

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Re: old German profession: Tabo?????b????meister?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 20 August 07 21:03 BST (UK) »
Thanks everyone - and sorry not to have a scan up yet.

The profession IN DANISH appears to be:

"Tobaksarbeider"

And in German that would be:

"Tabaksarbeiter" or "Tabacksarbeiter"

And it looks like it COULD be one of those, with the suffix (?) "meister", thus:

"Tabacksarbeitermeister"

If that's grammatically acceptable, at least.

But in my document (an Ahnen-Tafel, actually) the long "s" MIGHT be an "f" and there is another "k"-looking character in there, so maybe it reads:

"Tabackfabrikemeister"
ENDSOR: Tamworth/Manchester
LAMB: Leeds/Manchester
SMITH: Manchester
HOLMES: Kirk Ireton/Manchester
WORTHINGTON: Middleton/Manchester
SHORROCK: Manchester
BROOKS: Wilmslow/Knutsford
By marriage in Manchester: BAXENDALE, DODD, EYERS, FIRTH, FISHER, FO(R)STER, HARGREAVES, J(A/E)RVIS, McKEOWN, OSBALDESTON, PICKWELL, PODMORE, SCHOFIELD, SHALLCROSS, STONES, WALKER
GREY, DOYLE, GOLDEN, MONAHAN: Ireland
HAWE, FRENEY, NARY: Co. Kilkenny
DONOHO and variants: Co. Longford