Author Topic: Colville Armstrong Midlothian 1823  (Read 5669 times)

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Re: Colville Armstrong Midlothian 1823
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 02 September 12 11:59 BST (UK) »
George Armstrong married on 3rd June 1809 at Westruther Berwick Scotland to Forester Lindsay
George and his son Walter came to Australia on board the Glen Huntly in April 1840, George died of dysentery not long after arriving, Walter aged 18 survived the trip over

when did Colville arrive in Australia? I cant seem to find a passenger record of him
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Re: Colville Armstrong Midlothian 1823
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 02 September 12 12:09 BST (UK) »
Hi Trudy
good to hear from you.  If you send me your email via a personal message I will be happy to send info.

Hi Graham
Are you sure George from the "Glen Huntly" is our George, I'm not so sure, the shipping records do not add up.  Do you have any other paperwork that ties it all in. 
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Re: Colville Armstrong Midlothian 1823
« Reply #11 on: Monday 03 September 12 10:36 BST (UK) »
Hi Julie

According to dad's recollections of his childhood with Colville Jnr that was the story, I have some other stuff which I will post shortly.

Hi Trudy

Colville Snr. married Sarah Candish 10 Jan 1849 in Melbourne.

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Re: Colville Armstrong Midlothian 1823
« Reply #12 on: Monday 03 September 12 11:54 BST (UK) »
Hi Army, your dad's story is a bit coincidental though

Walter Armstrong (born in 19/6/1822 Berwick Scotland who came to Australia on the glen huntly with his father George armstrong), his mother was Forester/Forrester Lindsay,
George and Forester married 03 June 1809 Westruther,​Berwick,​Scotland, there were a number of births to them but couldn't find colville's birth

a census record for 1831 would be good
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Re: Colville Armstrong Midlothian 1823
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 04 September 12 10:22 BST (UK) »
John married Clara Colville (father Wiliam Colville mother Margaret Fender) 16/05/1755

Betty born 05/06/1785 died ?

George born 12/04/1787 died 04/1840 Married (03/06/1809) Forrester Lindsay  died 02/11/1837
John born 18/08/1810 died 10/06/1867
William born 14/02/1814 died 1864
Catherine born 19/05/1816 died ?
James born 19/04/1818 died ?
George born 30/05/1820 died 30/01/1882
Walter born 13/08/1822 died ?
Colville Snr. born 1826 died 25/02/1889
Hume born 1826 died 03/01/1827
Hume born 1827 died 09/02/1858

Margaret born 06/02/1782 died ?

William born 31/08/1791 died ?


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Re: Colville Armstrong Midlothian 1823
« Reply #14 on: Monday 07 March 16 08:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi Trudy

Been awhile. Granddad & dad used to talk about Hume quite often unfortunately both now gone. Are you still in the Jerilderie/Berrigan area, I'm not far from there? I have a suspicion that Colville Snr may have come to Oz via Canada, US or NZ I'm still trying to track it down. Another name that has popped up is Black not sure if there is a family link.

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Re: Colville Armstrong Midlothian 1823
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 17 January 17 03:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi all on this thread. My grandmother (Ida Florence Wilson b:17th August, 1909) was the illegitimate daughter of Cecilia Annie Victoria Wilson (b:1892 d:1944). Cecilia was only 16 years old when she gave birth to my grandmother and there was no father's name on the birth certificate. My grandmother was fostered out as a baby and I'm not sure what she knew of her parents.

Cecilia (known as 'Annie') married William Colville Armstrong (b:1884 d:1919) in 1910.

William's parents were Joseph Armstrong (b:1854 d:1890) and Alice Josephine Henderson Duncan (b:1860 d:1954).

Joseph's parents were Colville Armstrong (b: @1823 d:1889) and Sarah Charlotte Candish (b:1832 d:1922)

I do not know for sure that William was my grandmother's father but he was at the very least her step-father.

I've just been having another look at Colville Armstrong and found this thread (and another) about Colville's father George and brother Walter coming to Australia on the "Glen Huntly" in 1940 and George dying shortly afterwards. I have not been able to find a marriage or death for Walter Armstrong.

I notice that no-one has found any reference to Colville's birth in Scotland or any ship records. Colville's death index states he was 66 years when he died in Feb, 1889 putting his birth at 1822/early 1823. Interestingly Walter's birth date was 19th June 1822. Do you think that Colville IS Walter???? Lots of people back then used different names and there was not the legality there is today.
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Re: Colville Armstrong Midlothian 1823
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 17 January 17 04:51 GMT (UK) »
Walter/Colville interesting thought, maybe his real name is "Walter Colville Armstrong"  or Colville Walter Armstrong    :-\
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Re: Colville Armstrong Midlothian 1823
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 17 January 17 10:06 GMT (UK) »
It is an interesting thought but not convinced they were the same person. My sisters have been to Scotland and have found something about Colville coming here but under another family name. There is also the chance that he was here before George and Walter came to Australia. I knew my G grandfather Colville Jnr. but I was more interested in his stories of the gold rushes around central Victoria. My grandfather and Dad used to tell some stories but they too have gone, I have an uncle (86) near Melbourne (the only one left that could know something) he talks freely about growing up around Colville Jnr. Some things we will never know.