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[suzard]

This looks like John with father in 1841
Boad Hole
newlands
Crossthwaite
Isaac Gill 35 farmer
John 15
Isaac 10
Mary 9
Sarah Hird 70 Ind
Susan Harrison 20 FS
all b in county

(on same page there are sevaral Tyson families/family members)

then there is this marriage

Mar qtr 1843
Cockermouth
on same page
Jane Tyson
Isaac Gill
25 63

so it seems jane was John's stepmother -and also explains where the name "Tyson" as a forename originates

Suz

[__tracy__]

Wow Suz you did do some digging cant thank you enough  now i need to go and compare with new rellie   Her 1841 census  received this morning was ........
Township Hayton and Meals
Danpect?
William Gill   50  coalminer  not born in county
Mary    45
John     15
Jane     14
Mary    12  all born in county
so i gather this is wrong ?
Regards Tracy
    

[suzard]

This is only my opinion - but the 1841 I gave you with John -father Isaac and then 1851 - the names of John's siblings and half siblings "fit" with what john called his children -especilly the "Tyson" -and John also called a son Isaac- so I think this is a much better bet.

What may have thrown your "new rellie" out is On 1841(I think) Issac was transcribed as Jane !!! Image reads Isaac -but quite difficult to read

If either of you have margaret/John's marriage cert , then that will confirm John's father's name

Be good to hear what you and "new rellie" agree on

Suz