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Re: MacKellar - New South Wales
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 18 February 10 02:40 GMT (UK) »
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« Reply #19 on: Thursday 18 February 10 02:50 GMT (UK) »
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Re: MacKellar - New South Wales
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 18 February 10 19:40 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Akira!

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Re: MacKellar - New South Wales
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 30 October 10 21:57 BST (UK) »
Hi .. I found your conversation and wonder if my MacKellars are also tied in as I have found that Neil (died 1802) is possibly a nephew of General Patrick MacKellar, therefore cousin of Admiral John MacKellar who has a daughter named Lilly Augusta Drummond MacKellar .. wondering if there is a tie in because Neil's daughter Elizabeth married John Francis Drummond. Would love any info you have about them. They are a fascinating family!!
Thanks
Gina  8)
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Re: MACKELLAR- New South Wales
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 31 October 10 00:33 BST (UK) »
Australian Dictionary of Biography - Online Edition
Drummond, John (fl. 1808 - 1823)
Cultural Heritage: Scottish
Occupation: duellist public servant
DRUMMOND, JOHN (fl.1808-1823), public servant, was the second son of Captain Francis Pinkerton Drummond (1749-1820) of the 98th Regiment, and a descendant of William Drummond of Hawthornden, Midlothian, the celebrated seventeenth century Scottish poet and historian. He took over certain of his father's interests in Scotland by deed executed in 1808. Within the next few years he married Elizabeth, who was born in New South Wales in 1793, the eldest child of Captain Neil MacKellar  of the New South Wales Corps and a convict, Sarah Cooley. To his father this was a most 'unfortunate marriage' and in 1814 Drummond was appointed Naval Officer at Hobart Town. He travelled out to Sydney with his wife and first son, John Duncan Wellington, in the Marquis of Wellington, arrived in January 1815, and moved on to Hobart in July, having been joined in Sydney by Mrs Drummond's two sisters, Isabella and Lilias McKellar.
Drummond appears to have given satisfaction in his official position in Van Diemen's Land. He was active in the suppression of smuggling, and received two land grants totalling more than 1200 acres (406 ha), though bushranging activities prevented their cultivation. He was involved in a pistol duel with Ensign Thomas Lascelles in October 1815, and was a foundation member of the Waterloo Club formed in 1816 to honour the great victory. In May 1817 he was active in trying to check the improper behaviour of Lieutenant Charles Jeffreys  in the Kangaroo.
Drummond's downfall came in his domestic behaviour. An intimate association developed between him and his sister-in-law, Lilias McKellar, who was living in his household. In August 1817 Lilias bore him a child, which she allegedly murdered, whereupon he buried it. At the coroner's inquest a Hobart jury found that the child had been murdered by Lilias with aid from Drummond and a servant woman. The three were committed for trial in Sydney where, though the burial was not denied, they were acquitted of the charge of murder for want of sufficient evidence. Drummond, who had been immediately suspended from office, appealed to Governor Lachlan Macquarie for reinstatement and asked that the details of the trial be suppressed in the Sydney Gazette, since the publicity would distress his respected family in Britain. Moved to grant the latter request, Macquarie nevertheless thought that Drummond was unfit to serve the government and dismissed him in December 1817. Lilias, who was only about 20 at the time of her indiscretion, subsequently married Nathaniel Elliot in Hobart in June 1820 and died in December 1896. Mrs Drummond remained loyal to her husband throughout, though distressed by his association with her sister; she bore him a son in 1816 at Hobart, and another in 1819 at Sydney. Drummond sailed for England with his wife and sons in the Admiral Cockburn in March 1820, and settled at Addlestone, Surrey. From there he administered his Scottish interests, and when the deed of 1808 was registered in 1823 he was described as 'Sir John Francis Drummond, formerly Naval Officer at the Derwent, Van Diemen's Land'.
J. F. Drummond is not to be confused with John Drummond, a marine, who was beachmaster at Norfolk Island in 1796-1812 and then lived near Sydney on a small pension.
Select Bibliography
Historical Records of Australia, series 1, vols 8-9, series 3, vol 2; M. Hookey (ed), Bobby Knopwood and His Times (Hob, 1929); manuscript catalogue under John Drummond (State Library of New South Wales); correspondence file under John Drummond (Archives Office of Tasmania). More on the resources <../references/A010310r.htm>
Author: R. L. Wettenhall

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Re: MACKELLAR- New South Wales
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 31 October 10 00:33 BST (UK) »
SHIP NEWS. On "Wednesday last sailed for Hobart Town His Majesty's armed brig Emu, Capt. Forster.—Passengers : Mrs. Forster, Mr. Drummond, Naval Officer at that Settlement; Mrs Drummond, and two Misses McKellar ; Mr. Wood, As- sistant Surgeon 46th Regiment ; Mr. Evan's, De- puty Surveyor of Lands; Mr. Younge, A&sistunt Surgeon ; and Mrs. Younge.The Sydney Gazette and New South Wales Advertiser (NSW : 1803-1842)
Saturday 22 July 1815

Hobart Town ;
SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 20, 1817.
Sitting Magistrate-Rved. ROBERT KNOPWOOD, A. M;
SHIPS NEWS.-On Tuesday last sailed for Port Jackson, His Majesty;s colonial brig Elizabeth Henrietta, Mr. WHYTE, Master, Passengers, Mrs. Hogan & family, Mrs Drummond, Messers .Jemott, Fawkner, and Belvin.-John Diummond,Esq; Miss Mackellar and Mary Evers, lately commited on a charge of murder, were sent up in this vessel for trial ; and al those bushrangerss who were lately lentenced to be sent to the Coal River, New South Wales: alio the, cutter Mctmaid, Capt. ^HOLCY.-PalTergera, A. F» Kemp, Lfq, and Lieutenant Nunn, of the 46th Regiment.

GOVERNMENT AND GENERAL ORDERS.
Government House, Sydney,
Saturday, 15th Nov. 1817.
CIVIL department.
fl| IS Excellency the Governor is pleased, on the Recommendation of His Honor the Lieutenant Governor of Van Diemen's Land, to appoint John Belmont Gent, of Hobart Town, to the Situation of Naval Officer there, in the Room of John Drummond, Esq. removed from that Office, until the Pleasure of His RoyaV Highness the Prince Regent shall be made known.
By His Excellency's Command,
J. T. Campbell, Secretary.

Mr Drummond leaving the Colony by an early opportunity, and also Miss Mackellar, request all claims (if any) to be presented. The Sydney Gazette and New South Wales Advertiser (NSW : 1803-1842)Saturday 10 January 1818

Mr Drummond, Master Wellington Drummond, leaving the Colony by an early Opportunity, request all Claims (if any) to-be presented
MISS Mackellar proceeding to the Derwent by an early Opportunity, requests all Claims (if any) to be presented. The Sydney Gazette and New South Wales Advertiser (NSW : 1803-1842) (Saturday 17 January 1818

TWENTY POUNDS REWARD, WHEREAS on Wednesday Night the 30th' Ultimo, or early on Thursday Morning, the 1st Instant, a most daring Robbery was committed,, by the Party or Parties breaking and entering at one of the front Windows of my Residence in Argyle-street, and the follow ing Articles stolen therefrom; viz.-A very thick old.fashioned gold Watch, made by An- drew Dunlop,London No.900; a gold Chain; a gold key and two gold seals one of which has on it a Court of Arms, the Motto "Pru dentia et Marte, " the other a Crest, a Pegasus, with the initials J.D. ; a silver Hunting Watch, Maker's Name G. Robinson, London; a gold Ring; two pair of silver Knee-buckles; two scarlet.figured Watch Ribbaads; a large Tele scope; a small Pocket Compass; a canister of Gunpowder; a bag of Shot, No.3; a horn Powder flask, bound with brass; several Gun flints ; a Hand Vice; an English Fishing-line ; a case of Lancets; a Razor; a Bible bound in Calf-skin ; one Volume of Button's Natural History ; a wooden Machine for working Purses; one black And two white Lace Veils ; a black lace Cloak ; a grey cloth Pelisse; a Mock Camel's hair Shawl ; a Plum colored satin Spencer ; a white Frenen Silk Handker chief, with a brocaded border ; a scarlet lustre Gown ; two black Italian Net Gowns; a quani ty of Bed and Table Linen, Wearing Apparel of every description. Children's Clothes,Ribbands, Sewing Silk. Thread, Balls of Cot- ton, Shirt-buttons, Button.moulds, a Parcel of Promissory Notes, and several valuable Papers of no use to any one but myself, Whoever will give Information so as to lead to a Discovery of the above Property, or any Part thereof, and bring to conviction the Per- petrators or the Burglary, shall receive the above Reward. JOHN DRUMMOND. October 17th, 1818.

JOHN DRUMMOND, Esq., and Mrs, Drummond, .and family proceeding to Sydney in the Young Lachlan Schooner, request all Claims may.be immediately presented for Payment.The Hobart Town Gazette and Southern Reporter (Tas. : 1816-1821)Saturday 27 February 1819

JOHN DRUMMOND, Esq and Mrs,Drummond and Family, intending to proceed to Sydney on the Ship Hibernia, request all Claims may be forthwith presented The Hobart Town Gazette and Southern Reporter (Tas. : 1816-1821)  Saturday 5 June 1819

SHIP NEWS« »-On Monday Iast sailed for Port Jackson, the transport ship Hibernia, Captain JOHN LENNON, having on board for that place about 6000| bushels of wheat, and a quantity of other produce of this Settlement.--Paffengcrs, Charles Carter, Efq. Surgeon of the Roy- al Navy j Lieutenant Mee, of ' the 83d Regiment} Rev. Mr. Hill, Affiliant Chaplain of New South Wales, Mrs. H ill ; Mr. Smith and family; Edward Lord, Efq. 5 Rowland Walpole Loane, Efq,  Mr. John Drummond, Mrs. Drummond and family. Mr. Thomas Kent 5 Mrs. Murray j Mr. B. H. Ainfworth; Mr. M. Dowfon j and various prifoners and evidence-^among the' former are for trial, William Slater and Frederick Shafforr, committed on a charge of iheep-ftealing to a considerable extent. The Hobart Town Gazette and Southern Reporter (Tas. : 1816-1821) Saturday 12 June 1819








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Re: MACKELLAR- New South Wales
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 02 November 10 01:20 GMT (UK) »
Hi Gina,

There are a few of us who are trying to figure out who Duncan and Janet's family really are. If you know anything about this, or have any ideas we would appreciate hearing from you.

I will send you my email, through the personal message.

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Re: MACKELLAR- New South Wales
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 11 October 16 21:15 BST (UK) »
I wonder if there are any male descendants of Duncan MacKellar, son of Neil MacKellar (who came to New South Wales in 1792, and died returning to U.K. in 1802) in Australia who have had their Y-DNA run.
I seem to be descended from another Duncan MacKellar( b about 1772 Glassary Scotland d Napoleonic wars before 1816) who was the younger brother of Neil MacKellar. I have had my Y-DNA run by Family Tree DNA, and a comparison would help me authenticate my conventional genealogy.

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Re: MACKELLAR- New South Wales
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 11 October 16 22:09 BST (UK) »
Hi aussiebirder I have sent you a private message
BRADBURY - Nottingham
ROBERT RICE - New Zealand
ELIZA COMFORT YATES - Staffordshire, England
MACKELLAR - Scotland/England/Menorca/New Zealand
THOMAS JOHN WHITE - Ludlow, Shropshire
FREEMAN - England
LEE - Nottingham
HINTON - Nottingham
HUTCHINSON - Nottingham
GRANT - Wick, Scotland
FRASER - Wick, Scotland
HALL - Knocknaveigh, Cavan, Ireland
ALLEN/ALLAN - Tipperary, Ireland
WILSON - Scotland
RENFREW - Scotland
WHITE - Scotland
THOMSON - Scotland