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Help finding Bogra (farm?) near Cannonbie
« on: Wednesday 30 July 08 18:27 BST (UK) »
 does anyone know of a place near Cannonbie called Bogra? location, still exist, etc.  thanks.
Scott-Traquair, Catslacknowe, Ashkirk, Sco
Stutt-Co Fermanagh and Tyrone, Ulster, NI
Newton-North Plantagenet(CAN), Ireland
Grieve-Roberton, Lilliesleaf Sco
Hodgins-Cloughjordan, Co Tipperary, Ire
Elliot-Canonbie, Bogra, Holmhead, Annan, Sco and Egremont Engl
Little-Canonbie Sco,  Kingsbridgeford, Thirlwall, Wallasey Eng
McAlister-Louth Co., Queen's Co. Ire
Smith-Whitehaven Eng

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Re: Help finding Bogra (farm?) near Cannonbie
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 30 July 08 23:31 BST (UK) »
To see Bogra go to www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/getamap
Click 'I want to Get-a-map now !'  and enter Canonbie in the search box. When Canonbie appears, move to the west 3 times.
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Re: Help finding Bogra (farm?) near Cannonbie
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 31 July 08 00:07 BST (UK) »
the farm dates from at least the 18thC, it appears on the Roy map of 1747

http://geo.nls.uk/roy/

(on the right type in Tower-of-Sark in the gazeteer place name box.  The map appears zoomed out but there is a large Y shaped fork where 2 rivers join left of centre, and the word Scots of the name Scots Dyke is almost legible.  Click somewhere above the 'S' with the zoom selected and you should spot 'Bogry'.)

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Re: Help finding Bogra (farm?) near Cannonbie
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 31 July 08 17:21 BST (UK) »
 Thank you both for taking the time to help me out.  Your maps are wonderful! 
Scott-Traquair, Catslacknowe, Ashkirk, Sco
Stutt-Co Fermanagh and Tyrone, Ulster, NI
Newton-North Plantagenet(CAN), Ireland
Grieve-Roberton, Lilliesleaf Sco
Hodgins-Cloughjordan, Co Tipperary, Ire
Elliot-Canonbie, Bogra, Holmhead, Annan, Sco and Egremont Engl
Little-Canonbie Sco,  Kingsbridgeford, Thirlwall, Wallasey Eng
McAlister-Louth Co., Queen's Co. Ire
Smith-Whitehaven Eng


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Re: Help finding Bogra (farm?) near Cannonbie
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 02 August 08 10:17 BST (UK) »
If you go to

http://www.langholmarchive.org.uk/?action=search&perPage=25&page=1&startDate=1848-1-1&endDate=1871-12-31&text=bogra&

you'll find some names connected with the farm in the mid-1800s

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Hounam ~ Dumfriesshire; Pettigrew, Scott ~ Hawick; Tweedie ~ Hawick and Moffat;

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Re: Help finding Bogra (farm?) near Cannonbie
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 02 August 08 17:16 BST (UK) »
this is such an interesting service you've introduced me to Walter C. thanks so very much for taking the time. 
Scott-Traquair, Catslacknowe, Ashkirk, Sco
Stutt-Co Fermanagh and Tyrone, Ulster, NI
Newton-North Plantagenet(CAN), Ireland
Grieve-Roberton, Lilliesleaf Sco
Hodgins-Cloughjordan, Co Tipperary, Ire
Elliot-Canonbie, Bogra, Holmhead, Annan, Sco and Egremont Engl
Little-Canonbie Sco,  Kingsbridgeford, Thirlwall, Wallasey Eng
McAlister-Louth Co., Queen's Co. Ire
Smith-Whitehaven Eng

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Re: Help finding Bogra (farm?) near Cannonbie
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 14 August 08 18:28 BST (UK) »
I have some family links to Bogra which is a moderate quality farm of its type on the estate of the Duke of Buccleuch. It was farmed for at least a generation in the latter part of the 19th Century by a family of Carruthers who are widely spread in that district. The final Miss Carruthers married Christopher Elliot who farmed it with his sons until about 1928 when they moved to the Duke of Buccleuch's estate at Kettering, Northants.  Some of the children are still farming at Kettering.
If you want anything more do let me know.
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Mitchell, Stodart/Stothart, Armstrong, Porteous (Dumfriesshire), Taylor, Lindsay, Auld, (Ayrshire)

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Re: Help finding Bogra (farm?) near Cannonbie
« Reply #7 on: Friday 15 August 08 02:31 BST (UK) »
Thanks so much for the reply.  I have determined that my wife's ancestors, James Elliot and Isabella Broatch, were from Bogra.  They may have lived there for quite some time because she was born there (1775) and they had a son born there as well (1799).  I have no reason to suspect they had any ownership in the farm.  James was a glazier according to documents I've found although i haven't yet figured out what a glazier might make....cottage/house windows perhaps? 
Scott-Traquair, Catslacknowe, Ashkirk, Sco
Stutt-Co Fermanagh and Tyrone, Ulster, NI
Newton-North Plantagenet(CAN), Ireland
Grieve-Roberton, Lilliesleaf Sco
Hodgins-Cloughjordan, Co Tipperary, Ire
Elliot-Canonbie, Bogra, Holmhead, Annan, Sco and Egremont Engl
Little-Canonbie Sco,  Kingsbridgeford, Thirlwall, Wallasey Eng
McAlister-Louth Co., Queen's Co. Ire
Smith-Whitehaven Eng

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Re: Help finding Bogra (farm?) near Cannonbie
« Reply #8 on: Friday 15 August 08 18:32 BST (UK) »
It is often quite hard to get a clear line on the Elliots of Canonbie who, incidentally were also common in Newcastleton. They were a predominant family in the area during the time of the Border Reivers. The Broatches were all said to come from the farm of the Broats which is on the road between Kirkpatrick Fleming and Annan.  The occupation of glazier is quite possible as at the time he was working a great deal of activity was going on in building new farm houses and buildings on the new farms which were being created as a part of the Agricultural Revolution which was at its height at that time.
By the way here were two Bogras - Big and Little
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Mitchell, Stodart/Stothart, Armstrong, Porteous (Dumfriesshire), Taylor, Lindsay, Auld, (Ayrshire)