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Re: GERMANY: DEGENHARDT from Clausthal, Hanover
« Reply #9 on: Friday 13 November 09 03:18 GMT (UK) »
Jillian

Lina Barth & Johann Augustus Degenhardt are my g-g-g-g grandparents. They had a daughter Lina Augusta Degenhardt and that is who I come down through. :)

I'd love to know if you have any further information :)

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Re: GERMANY: DEGENHARDT from Clausthal, Hanover
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 14 November 09 01:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi all,
I have a Degenhardt in my family too.
Louisa Anna Lucy  DEGENHARDT b 1886 Murtoa Victoria- Parents Carl August  Gustav DEGENHARDT and Anna Maria Emilie ANDERS .
Louisa m Amil KIEFEL in 1907 Horsham Vic.
They had 2 children.
Carl and Anna also has another daughter Lillian Grace DEGENHARDT b 1887 Murtoa.

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Alison
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Other names: Collis, Williams,Courage, Andrew, Ransom, Gore.

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Re: GERMANY: DEGENHARDT from Clausthal, Hanover
« Reply #11 on: Monday 16 November 09 08:19 GMT (UK) »
Dear Pinker,

My information comes from my mother's cousin who told me that August and Lina had 4 children.

 August was employed at the Burra mines in South Australia.  I have  a name from the shipping list on the" Patel " with  a Augustine Alwine Henriette Barth b. 1823. I assume she is Lina Barth.

Gustav b. 10/09/1850
Augusta b. unknown
Carl. b 1863
Sophie Ann b. 31/05/1869. (when Lina was 46?)

Sophie was my maternal grandmother's mother.
Cheers Jill

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Re: GERMANY: DEGENHARDT from Clausthal, Hanover
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 24 July 10 10:39 BST (UK) »
Hi I am new to RootChat, but I think that I am also a descentdant of this family.  My Gt Grandfather was William Charles Degenhardt born 2 July 1882.  His father was Robert, born May 1854. Robert's father was a Louis Degenhardt who was married to Lina Kotte.  I think that Louis is a descendant of the family who came out on the George Washington.  If you or anyone else can help me with information on Louis Background or any information regarding William, I would be really grateful.  I do know that William was married twice and changed his name to Fisher in about 1930, but I have not been able to find any death records of either name.
Degenhardt Jarrett Hoare Kemp Coleman West


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Re: GERMANY: DEGENHARDT from Clausthal, Hanover
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 24 July 10 11:29 BST (UK) »
Hi BarossaPearl,

A Big Welcome to RootsChat.  ;D

Perhaps Robert and Mary may not have been married. There are two listings for Williams Birth which are linked

DAGENHARDT William Chales born 2 July 1882 Adelaide Dist Ade Symbol X 285 465 parents Robert DAGENHARDT and Mary FISHER

FISHER William Charles born 2 July 1882 Adelaide Dist Ade Symbol X 285 465 parents Robert DAGENHARDT and Mary FISHER

This would explain the use of the name FISHER, though siblings only registered as DEGENHARDT

Siblings listed to Robert DEGENHARDT and Mary FISHER unless otherwise stated

Caroline Mary 31 Aug 1875 Adelaide Dist Ade Symbol V 155 415A (Mother listed as Mary Louisa FISHER)
Robert 13 Jun 1879 Adelaide Dist Ade 220 206
Ann 9 Aug 1881 Adelaide Dist Ade 264 391
Robert 19 Aug 1888 Adelaide Dist Ade 422 77 (M = Multiple Birth) (Mother listed as Mary Louisa FISHER)
Walter 19 Aug 1888 Adelaide Dist Ade 422 77 (M = Multiple Birth) (Mother listed as Mary Louisa FISHER)

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Re: GERMANY: DEGENHARDT from Clausthal, Hanover
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 24 July 10 11:38 BST (UK) »
MMM Robert and Mary were married

Robert DEGENHARDT 20 single father Louis DEGENHARDT = FISHER Louisa Mary 20 single father Joseph FISHER 11 May 1874 PM Mance Adelaide Dist Ade 99 419

Baptisms listed to Robert and Mary and also to William Charles

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#c=1408347;p=2;t=searchable

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Re: GERMANY: DEGENHARDT from Clausthal, Hanover
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 24 July 10 12:03 BST (UK) »
I note Williams second marriage is also recorded under both names

DEGENHARDT William Charles 49 widow father Robert DEGENHARDT = MORPHETT Amy Fisher 52 single father George MORPHETT 24 Dec 1931 Registry Office Adelaide Dist Ade Symbol X 329/776

FISHER William Charles 49 widow father Robert DEGENHARDT = MORPHETT Amy Fisher 52 single father George MORPHETT 24 Dec 1931 Registry Office Adelaide Dist Ade Symbol X 329/776

These entries are also cross referenced as are the birth entries

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Re: GERMANY: DEGENHARDT from Clausthal, Hanover
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 24 July 10 14:06 BST (UK) »
I am not spotting much on Louis. I haven't found an arrival - His wife seems to be recorded by different name variants in the birth indexes. I do not see the marriage.

DEGENHARDT Anna 12 Jan 1852 Nor Recorded Dist TMu 6 141 (Mother Lina CHOTTEE)

Twins DEGENHARDT Louis and Robert 1 May 1854 Goodwood Dist Ade Symbol M 4 36 (Mother Lina KOTTE)

DEGENHARDT Betsey 26 Dec 1856 Hamilton Dist Gil 10 158 (mother Lena COTTA)

BISA looks inaccurate in this case. Looking at the birth index the children all appear to have the same mother

DEGENHARDT Luis arrived by 1853 residence Kensington religion RC
married 1. Caroline nee AMSTOR? child Luis 1853
married 2. Salina children Robt 1854, Eliz 1857

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Re: GERMANY: DEGENHARDT from Clausthal, Hanover
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 24 July 10 15:15 BST (UK) »
By what I can see in a extract from The Advertiser 15 May 1895 (The article has not yet been digitised) but it it looks like possibly an In Memorium for Louis which has been published by Robert.

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In loving memory of Louis Degenhardt, who died at Murtoa, Victoria

http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home

Very handy if he died in Victoria as Vic certs often contain a lot of information if known to the informant.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,373754.0.html

Cheers Kris  :)

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