landers family

[Gadget]

Hi Alex -

Where and when?

Laudenum ( derivative of opium) was a pretty popular drug in the 19th century - Queen Victoria was supposedly a user:

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Laudenum


Gadget

[kkmarsh]

Hi Alex
Iwas interested to read your message about Mary Ann Landers as she was my Grandmother and married Alexander Marshall and was wondering what your conection to the Landers was The Landers who took the overdose was Mary Anns Mother Margaret Landers (Nee McAdam) I have lots of info on the Landers and Marshalls
Regards
KeithM

[alex m]

Hello Gadget,thank you for that info, where and when;;;28th Sept.1899 at Minnigaff, of all places!!       Regards.................Alex

[alex m]

Hello Keith, I think we have a connection, I have pm'd you     Regards...............Alex

[KirstyG]

Hi Alex

I too am decended from that Landers line. I am already in touch with Keith.

Hi Keith!

I would be pleased to exchange any information with you.

Kirsty

[alex m]

Hello Kirsty, Going through some family photos and found one with a lady in it named on the back as Kate Galloway, it is probably from about the 1920's or 1930's. Got anyone with that name, around that time?? PM if you need a copy of it. I noticed the name Hawthorn in your pagelist are they from Castle Douglas?             Regards....................Alex
 

[KirstyG]

Hi Alex

There was an Aunt Kate in my family. She would have been born around the turn of the century, I don't have the exact date to hand. She was the eldest daughter of Elizabeth Landers (born 1877)- Youngest sister of Mary Landers who married Alexander Marchall.

I would love a photo.

The Hawthorns are from the Gatehouse/Girthon area, so some of them may have lived in Castle Douglas. I haven't traced them all yet.

If you want any more information on this line with respect to the Landers/Galloway branch I can post more when I have more time.

Kirsty

[KirstyG]

I have been working a little more on this line and have hit a couple of snags, I wondered if anyone else could help.

I have managed to trace my line back as far as Thomas LANDERS (b c.1797) and Annie KELLY (b c.1801 Minnigaff) with a good degree of confirmation from certificates etc.
I have 7 children to them:
Jane               c1825 - ?
William             1830 - 1868
Margaret          1832 - 1855
John                1835 - 1919
Charles            1839 - 1926
Alexander*      1829/1839 - 1857/1867
Robert             1843 - 1849

*Slight query over Alexander's birth year, due to discrepancy between SP Death index and the MI. Both give age at death as 28, but differ by 10 years in year of death 1857 vs 1867.

Have been unable to find birth entries for Jane or Alexander in the OPRs.


From their death certificates I have got parents names for Thomas and Annie:

James Landers and Agnes Clark (parents of Thomas)

James Kelly and Whilmina Hunter (parents of Annie)

However this is where I get stuck.

As both fathers were named James I am very surprised that there is no son James, unless he moved out or died before the 1841 census.


To add further confusion Jane had an illegitimate daughter named Mary at some point. Jane married in 1855 to John Broom and went on to have several children with him. Mary was mentioned in Thomas's Will and Testament (1877). I have been unable to find any other mention of her.

[KirstyG]

I have just seen Alex's query on the KKD board re Landers in Balmaclellan 1792 census.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,332946.0.html

I think the link with the Pattersons may possibly come from this family:

Thomas Landers and Margaret Paterson
Elizabeth 1774
Thomas 1776


What do you think the chances are of them being our lot?

Kirsty