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Birth and Death lookup - Great name !
« on: Friday 21 November 08 12:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi all
Doing some research for a friend and having difficulties with one particular gent.

Can't find his birth, death or find him on any census !

His name ?

Frederick Fant Michael Abbott

Born c 1870 possibly in Doncaster or Lincoln area.  Died I think after 1940 around Edgware.

Occupation as stated on second marriage cert "Professional thought Reader"

Fathers name George Patrick Abbott a Surgeon.

Now he should be easy :(

I have found a photo on the NA site, (" standing upon a subjects body he has reduced to a state of catalepsy").
A book possibly written by him , two patents, two marriages and two divorces, so I have been looking :)

Have trolled through the BMD's for hours .. help please :)

Fred

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Re: Birth and Death lookup - Great name !
« Reply #1 on: Friday 21 November 08 12:49 GMT (UK) »
are his dad's details the same on the 1893 (Donc) and 1903 (Lincoln) Marriage Certs ?
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« Reply #2 on: Friday 21 November 08 12:53 GMT (UK) »
Sorry have not got the first cert yet
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« Reply #3 on: Friday 21 November 08 13:01 GMT (UK) »
any 'interesting' witnesses on the 2nd cert ?

assume his age shown as 33 ish then ?

The only Abbot who is a surgeon on the 1881 census, is Irish looks recently married with 2 very young kids ....

maybe someone else will have an 1871 census with the ability to search on ocupation ....

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Re: Birth and Death lookup - Great name !
« Reply #4 on: Friday 21 November 08 13:07 GMT (UK) »
Hiya Fred

What were his wives names? maybe we can find them in later census and work backwards

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« Reply #5 on: Friday 21 November 08 13:20 GMT (UK) »
you'd think so wouldnt you !

didnt help that they married just after a census !
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« Reply #6 on: Friday 21 November 08 13:27 GMT (UK) »
His wife from 1893 until 1902 was Alice Hawthorne Axe.  
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« Reply #7 on: Friday 21 November 08 13:31 GMT (UK) »
No interesting witnesses, but states father deceased. And I have not found a death for George Patrick Abbott yet either !

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« Reply #8 on: Friday 21 November 08 13:32 GMT (UK) »
saw Alice H on the 1891 - born c1863 Donc', but no death record seems to match that age ?

(Was that from your friend as the Cert isnt available ? )

Are you assuming she lived until the year before he remarried ?


PS. Just noticed that her Dad Joseph was a Vetinary Surgeon .... maybe a pre-marriage link to the Abbots ?
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