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Help please! Town or parish?
« on: Tuesday 10 February 09 06:17 GMT (UK) »
My 2nd great-grandfather, Samuel Williams, was baptized in the parish of Longdon-upon-Tern in 1808. Prior to 1841 he moved to Staffordshire and according to the various census returns was born, 1851 Longdon, 1861 Long, 1871 Withington and 1881 Wellington. I think there is also a town or village called Longdon-upon-Tern. Looking at a map of the area there seems to be both a Longdon upon tern and a Longdon on Tern. I'm totally confused and wonder whether anyone could give be some guidance as to how I might determine what the likely place of birth might have been.

Samuel's parents, Thomas Williams and Elizabeth Hazledine were married in 1807 in the same church in Longdon-upon-Tern parish. In the 1851 census his place of birth is noted as Erdington and in 1861 Roddington. The most likely candidate for a baptism in the IGI is a Thomas Williams in 1785 at Rodington but I understand there is both a town and parish called Rodington. If anyone is familiar with any of these places I would welcome any similar suggestions about a possible place of birth.

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Re: Help please! Town or parish?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 10 February 09 07:01 GMT (UK) »
Longdon-upon-Tern and Longdon on Tern are two names for the same village.
There is a village nearby named Longnor.
Perhaps a typo or mis-reading.
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Re: Help please! Town or parish?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 12 February 09 10:01 GMT (UK) »
Thank you very much Guy. Do you have any ideas about the other places I mentioned in the post? I'm in Australia and sometimes find it difficult to get my head around all this, particularly when parishes also seem to have the same names as actual towns or villages.

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Re: Help please! Town or parish?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 12 February 09 10:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Genuki is a good place to start with locations:

http://www.genuki.org.uk/


Withington:

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SAL/Withington/index.html

Wellington:

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SAL/Wellington/index.html

Longdon/Tern:

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SAL/LongdonuponTern/index.html

Rodington:

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SAL/Rodington/index.html



It was quite usual for a parish to take the name of a village/town in the area where the church was located. Often the parish records will show a more specific location whereas the IGI normally just gives the parish.


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Re: Help please! Town or parish?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 12 February 09 11:47 GMT (UK) »
Whereas the others are all in the same broad area, I can't see an Erdington around there. The only one that I know of is in Birmingham. it might well be a misreading by the enumerator or transcriber  :-\


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Re: Help please! Town or parish?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 12 February 09 19:32 GMT (UK) »
hi  their  is an Eardington in Shropshire about 5miles from Bridgnorth going  out towards Highley.
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« Reply #6 on: Thursday 12 February 09 19:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi Karen

Well done  :)

It's a long way from Roddington though  :-\


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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 12 February 09 22:18 GMT (UK) »
hi gadget
go to google Eardington Shropshire   its avery old village and it is nice we go to Highley alot.i live in stourbridge.
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Re: Help please! Town or parish?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 12 February 09 22:22 GMT (UK) »
I have Karen  and I realised  that I've been there a few times  :)

Trouble is that it's a long way from Roddington which is the other place that Thomas Williams said he was born.


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