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Re: Austerfield Murder 1828
« Reply #27 on: Friday 20 February 09 20:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ian Sheila
sorry about missing the last bit of that link and thanks Sheila for sorting it out.  Hope you find some rellies
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Re: Austerfield Murder 1828
« Reply #28 on: Saturday 21 February 09 14:38 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ian

I popped to the FHS this morning but sadly there is not as much information there as I had hoped.  They have the burial registers and there are 5 Dyons buried in St Helena's Church in Austerfield.  There is William Snr and his wife Sarah, John and his wife Betty and another John (presumably the son of John & Betty who died in infancy).

The memorial inscriptions revealed even less information, there are no Dyons listed at all!!  I drove to the church but there are only a few gravestones and could not see anything mentioning Dyon.  There are a few gravestones which are illegible which are covered in lichen and others covered by grass or broken.  It is also possible that they could not afford a stone.

Here is the information I found:-
John Dyon was buried 03.03.1820 aged 2 months
John Dyon was buried 26.02.1828 aged 43 *murdered 16.02.1828 in his own closes*
Betty Dyon was buried 04.10.1859 aged 70 (there is mention at the edge of the record to say she was the wife of John Dyon so it is possible they were buried together but there is nothing to confirm this).

I also spoke to the vicar of the church but they no longer keep the records that far back and they are now kept at Nottingham.  Sorry I could not be of more help.

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Re: Austerfield Murder 1828
« Reply #29 on: Saturday 21 February 09 17:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi Goofy,

Thank you so much for this information and for going to Austerfield to check the Churchyard. Of course there is an element of disappointment that there is no gravestone (or at least none surviving) but at least the story lives on.

Did you by any chance take notes of the dates for the other two burials - William Snr and his wife Sarah?

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Re: Austerfield Murder 1828
« Reply #30 on: Saturday 21 February 09 18:11 GMT (UK) »
I did but rubbed it out as I didn't think they were relevant  :-[ :P  I am still going to the archives (which is next door to the FHS) as planned later this week for some stuff for me so I can get it for you then.

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Re: Austerfield Murder 1828
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 22 February 09 16:30 GMT (UK) »
I thought I should post a note to say I have now read a copy of 16 page book about the Report of the Trial which is held at York Reference Library.

This is a verbatim account of the evidence in similar terms to the googlebook previously found by Sheila. However the googlebook provides more in the way of background information and I think the googlebook is a better read for anyone who wants to know the story.

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Re: Austerfield Murder 1828
« Reply #32 on: Friday 27 February 09 16:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ian, hopefully I have the right information for you this time  ::)

I'm not sure why you mention William
Did you by any chance take notes of the dates for the other two burials - William Snr and his wife Sarah?
As the brothers William & John were born to John & Sarah Dyon.

John Dyon Snr was buried 14.04.1833 aged 83
Sarah Dyon was buried 22.11.1805 aged 66 (both at St Helena's Church, Austerfield)

I also found the following:

William Dyon christened 15.09.1782 - parents John & Sarah (transcribed as Diyion)
John Dyon christened 21.06.1784 - parents John & Sarah (transcribed as Diyon)

William Dyon married Sarah Senthouse 24.03.1805
John Dyon christened 14.07.1805 - parents William & Sarah

Elizabeth Dyon christened 22.02.1818 - parents John & Betty
John Dyon christened 02.01.1820 - parents John & Betty
John Dyon buried 03.03.1820 aged 2 months
Matilda Dyon christened 22.12.1825 - parents John & Betty
Also 
"Mrs Dyon who was delivered of a still born child on Friday, in consequence of the shock which she received by the afflictive event of her husband's murder, continues in a very delicate state of health"
This was reported in the paper dated Friday 29.02.1828 so I think think the date would have been the previous Friday 22.02.1828

All the above was at St Helena's Church, Austerfield.

I searched the parish registers and the IGI films and there is no record of a marriage for John & Sarah or John & Betty which is a shame (although you may have this already).

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Re: Austerfield Murder 1828
« Reply #33 on: Saturday 28 February 09 11:53 GMT (UK) »
Dear Goofy,

Thanks for the additional information. Your posting on 21 Feb confused me as you said the other two burials were "William Snr and his wife Sarah". I see now that you meant "John Snr and his wife Sarah". The burial dates and ages for them is a great help. It also confirms that the Will in 1833 previously found by deb usa does relate to John Snr.

No, I could not find the marriage of John Snr and Sarah either but I do have the marriage of John Dyon and Bettey Conway at Blyth on 27 Feb 1817.

Thanks again for all your help.
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Re: Austerfield Murder 1828
« Reply #34 on: Saturday 28 February 09 16:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi all

I have also been looking for the Marriage of John Dyon to Sarah ?

I recall in the beginning of this thread that Dyon might = Dyson.

So this is a bit of a long shot but IGI has this marriage which may be a bit too early;

John DYSON = Sarah Coching
28 NOV 1775   Finningley, Nottingham

I believe Finningley is in the parish of Blythe. (Wiki)

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Re: Austerfield Murder 1828
« Reply #35 on: Saturday 28 February 09 17:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi deb,

Well spotted but if the burial records are correct Sarah was born c1739 which would make her 36 for a marriage in 1775. Son William the murderer was born in 1782 and son John the murder victim was born in 1784 which would make her 45 at his birth. I do not want to get myself in trouble here but I think you are right that it may be a long shot.

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