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Re: James John Beament California
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 21 February 09 15:07 GMT (UK) »
Oh wow, now it's coming together. ;D Thank you.

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Many thanks for the link I shall keep it in mind & for the Death Index on Rootsweb, I hadn't even looked there. :D

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That is brilliant, I did get the name Dorothy A from the 1930 index, so I now have Myrtle's name. :D

I wonder who the James J would be, a bit to old for James John's son, as he was 1 year old in 1917. :-\

Mystery who the first wife was in 1920, (Christina) with 2 children of her own. :-\ It must be her referred to on the WW1 draft, as Myrtle wasn't born until 1908.

This is quite confusing...... ;D

Many many thanks again for all your are doing.

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Re: James John Beament California
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 21 February 09 15:20 GMT (UK) »
California Voter Registrations, 1900-1968, San Mateo County

1940 - Beament, Mrs. Myrtle M., 17 Theta Ave., ocupation labeling, democrat
1942 - Beament, Mrs. Myrtle M., 17 Theta Ave., ocupation labeling, democrat
1944 – Beament, Mrs. Myrtle M., 17 Theta Ave., ocupation labeling, democrat

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Could be a second marriage for James, Jr.

I'll look for Christina a bit later.
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

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Re: James John Beament California
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 21 February 09 16:31 GMT (UK) »
 ;D

Thanks again, can I ask, would there be any significance to the fact that James J is not on the voters registration. ??? Just wondering if he was in WW2, would have been to old to be serving though surely.

I'm away to get all this info put down in some order. :)

I can't thank you enough. ;D

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Re: James John Beament California
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 21 February 09 16:35 GMT (UK) »

...  would there be any significance to the fact that James J is not on the voters registration. ??? Just wondering if he was in WW2, would have been to old to be serving though surely.


Too lazy to register?  Not a US citizen?
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis


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Re: James John Beament California
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 21 February 09 20:39 GMT (UK) »
I don’t see James’s entry into the US and, in the 1920 census, he claimed to be born in California, father b. England, mother b, Ireland.  Also, there’s no sign of the step children in 1920.  I havn't found Myrtle in 1920, either.

The problem with finding Christine is that she entered the US in 1911 and so she isn't on the 1910 census.  Her kids might even have been born in Canada.

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California Voter Registration, 1900-1968, San Francisco

1924 – Beament, Mrs. Christena, 812 Alvarado, housewife, republican

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1910 Census  [if this is the right Myrtle, she seems to have been enumerated twice and she was a twin]

4712 25th St., San Francisco Assembly District 34, San Francisco, California

Bartram, Henry A., 45, married twice, current marriage 5 yrs.,  b. Denmark, parents b. Denmark, naturalized, immigration date illegible, laborer, sugar co.

Stella M., wife, 35, married twice, current marriage 5 yrs., 5 children 3 living, b. South Dakota, father b. Scotland, mother b. Iowa, no occupation

Lillie, Louis L., step-son, 4, California
Lillie, Agnes M., step-daughter, 9 California
Bartram, Henry G., son, 3, California
Lang, Myrtle, boarder, 2, California
Lang, Alice, boarder, 2, California


St. Vincent DePaul Catholic Human Bureau, San Francisco Assembly District 37, San Francisco, California

Lang, Alice, inmate, 2, California, parents birthplace unknown
Lang, Myrtle, inmate, 2, California, parents birthplace unknown

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Possible birth of Myrtle:

Myrtle Lang, 8 April 1908, mother’s maiden name McDonald, Alameda County
Alice Lang, 8 April 1908, mother’s maiden name McDonald, Alameda County

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Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

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Re: James John Beament California
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 21 February 09 21:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi again,

I couldn't find any entry into the US either & by the sound of the info on the 1920 census that isn't my James, ummmmmm. ???

Both his father & mother were born in England, Father James William born Boxmoor Herts & mother Annie, nee McGuire Brompton Kent.

That does sound like you have the correct Myrtle, if she is the one on the Death Index which sounds plausible, then the birth date of 8th April 1908 matches. Especially as she is aged 21 & married at 19 on the 1930.

Oh dear, is it back to the drawing board for the 1920 census, do you think.

Another thought, as his mother isn't any where to be found in the 1901 UK census I wonder if they both left the country together. :-\

Maybe via Canada. ???

Maddie

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Re: James John Beament California
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 21 February 09 21:43 GMT (UK) »
I wouldn't worry too much about the birth places on the 1920 census because he may not have supplied the information himself.  Perhaps his wife did and she just said whatever came into her head or she didn't want to say he was a foreigner because she thought he might be an illegal alien.  I have many cases where the parents' birth places are clearly wrong but I'm sure I have the right family.

I didn't find him entering Canada, either.
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

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Re: James John Beament California
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 21 February 09 21:49 GMT (UK) »
One other thing:  I have looked for James Beament in the 1910 census and havn't found him.  So it looks like he entered the US after 1910.
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

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Re: James John Beament California
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 21 February 09 21:52 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for that, I've just been going through the 1920 index & he is the only one that fits. ??? I wonder if perhaps the step children mentioned on the draft card could have been elsewhere & without knowing Christinas name before she became a Beament there's no way of finding them.

I think perhaps he was an illegal alien, ;) sounds as if he may never have taken American citizenship. :o

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Beament, Hertfordshire, Middlesex, Canada, USA.
Brown, Herts & Berkshire
Hester, Oxfordshire
Wise, Berkshire
Dwight, Buckinghamshire
Warrell/Worrel, Bucks & Herts
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk