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Adolphus Brignall conjuror
« on: Tuesday 07 April 09 14:20 BST (UK) »
Adolphus (b1841 Wittersden Kent) appears on the 1881 census in Cambridge Place Cambridge, a street occupied by the very large and extended Brignell family. Does anyone know of his activities with the conjuring, and his parents?
Is the fact that he was in a street heavily populated by bearers of his family name meaningful, or just coincidental?
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Re: Adolphus Brignall conjuror
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 07 April 09 14:29 BST (UK) »
Hi Redroger,

The 1871 census describes him as a musician.

1851
HO107/1620 141 1
Wittersham, Kent

John Brignall, head, 30, Farmer's son, b. Wittersham
Ann, wife, 36, School Mistress, b. do.
James Bourne, wife's son, 13, Errand Boy, b. Brockland
Adolphus Brignall Bourne, son, 10, scholar at home, b. Wittersham
John Tyler? Brignall, son, 5, scholar at home, b. do.
Ann Elizth Brignall, dau, 5 mo, b. do.

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Re: Adolphus Brignall conjuror
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 07 April 09 14:37 BST (UK) »
Hi Tati, Thanks for that. It seems that the Brignell connection to Cambridge (if any) may be further back than I thought. Anything further from 1841 please, like hopefully, John Brignell's farmer father born outside the county?
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Re: Adolphus Brignall conjuror
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 07 April 09 14:42 BST (UK) »
THere  are several Brignalls in Cambridge Place in 1871 too (none with a Kent connection though)

at No 21
Elizabeth - age 18 single born Cambridge, lodger

at No 33
John 33 labourer
Emma wife 35
Louisa 16
Charles 12
Alfred 7
Frederick 5
John 3 mths        all bn Cambridge

at No 41
James 46 labourer
Mary Ann 45 wife bn Shelford
James 16
Elizabeth 9
Alice 11 mths      all bar wife bn Cambridge

At No 44
Sarah widow 39 laundress
Hannah 10
Matilda 7
Robert Colley lodger widwer 44          all bn Cambridge

At No 78
Charles 23 Gen labourer
Esther 19
Esther 1
Elizabeth 6 mths      all bn Cambridge
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Adolphus Brignall conjuror
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 07 April 09 14:50 BST (UK) »
(Caroline) Ester at No.78 was my great grandmother. Sadly she died in childbirth in 1880.My grandmother's maternal grandmother, Sarah Brignell (Nee ???) appears on my grandparents wedding photo dated 1896. See Ayres wedding 1896 on photo restoration board. She is one of them who I do know!
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Re: Adolphus Brignall conjuror
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 07 April 09 14:51 BST (UK) »
Sorry, I can't ID John Brignall in 1841 (Ann Bourne is with her children in Wittersham).

This looks like the marriage:
Dec 1845 Hastings 7 609
John Brignall to possibly Ann Bourne

If it's the right marriage, it should tell John's father's name (not sure where you'll go from there though!)

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Re: Adolphus Brignall conjuror
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 07 April 09 14:55 BST (UK) »
Here they all are in 1861

(I see Charles, married to Esther in 1871, is here with mother Hannah)

No 27
William 36 Plumber and PAinter bn Kensington Middx
Sarah 30
Sarah 11
Elizabeth 9
Mary A 6        all bar Wm bn Cambridge

No 33
John 27 Bricklayers labourer
Emma 27 bn Little Shelford
Louisa 5
John 4
Charles 3
Emma 1            all bar wife bn Cambr.

No 41
James 30 Bricklayers lab
Mary A 32 bn Little Shelford
MAry A 10
James 6                 all bar wife bn Cambr.

No 46
Hannah widow 56 Dom servant
Charles 13 son     bn CAmbridge
+ 2 boarders (Jennings)

Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Adolphus Brignall conjuror
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 07 April 09 15:01 BST (UK) »
Sarah Brignell (Nee ???)

The IGI has:

Marriage 25 Dec 1847
St Paul, Cambridge
William Brignell (father William Brignell) to Sarah Moule (age 18, father John Moule)

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Re: Adolphus Brignall conjuror
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 07 April 09 15:05 BST (UK) »
1851 sees only 2 families in Cambridge Place (William has wife Hannah, not Sarah - as per charles mum on later censuses, but no sign Charles here, should be age 3)

James 21  bn C
MAry Ann 21  bn Litl Shelford
Mary 1  bn C


William 67 bn Duxford
Hannah 47 bn Cambridge
John 17
Richard 12
Alfred 7       all children bn Cambr.
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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