John Baumgartner 1861

[bobtonks]

Can anyone see John Baumgartner and his family living in Huntingdon in the 1861 census? His son, also John (1813) was living in Suffolk, I believe. Can anyone see him and his family?

[Mum44]

Hello Bobtonks 

1861
RG9  P. 974  Fol  43  Pg. 11

Port Street, Godmanchester, Hunts

BAUMGARTNER
John Thos  Head  M  83  MD Edinburgh, not practising, Landed Gentry  B.  Notts. Nottingham
Phillipa  Wife  M  69                             B.  Cambs. Cambridge
Emma  F A  Dau  Un  32                       B.  Switzerland, Geveva, British subject
Eliza  Grand/dau and visitor 19           B.  Middlesex,  London
John R  Grand/son & visitor  15           B.    ~             ~
George A    ~             ~        11           B.  Durham  Coniscliffe

+ 5 servants

[Mum44]

and the son   

1861
RG9.  P. 1189  Fol. 74  Pg. 28

Pier Hill, Gorleston, Great Yarmouth

BAUMGARTNER
John Percy Head  M  48  Landed Proprietor, Magistrate  B.  Hunts, Godmanchester
Elisa  Wife  M  44                                                             B.   ~            ~
William P  Son  13                               B. Kent
Jessie  Dau  10                                    B.   ~
Samuel Charles  Son  9                       B.    ~
Mary  Dau  6                                        B.    ~
Persis  Dau  4                                      B. Cambridgeshire
Henry Spelman  Son  1                        B.  Norfolk, Yarmouth
  + 2 servants

Not sure about the Persis name   

The Magistrate is in fact written next to Elisa's name, not sure whether it really refers to her or John 

ADDED :  Looked up her birth reg. - Persis is correct 

[bobtonks]

Thank you both for the information.

Bob

[bobtonks]

In 1851 John Thomas Baumgartner lived in Milton Cambs.  Can anyone see him or John Percy Baumgartner in the 1841 census?

[Mum44]

Hi Bob

Sorry, I can't see any of the family in 1841 

I looked for the other names  -  Phillipa etc.  but none appear under Baumgartner or obvious similar names.

There are in fact only 4 of that name showing :

Adam, age 50 born Foreign Parts, living Oldham, Lancs

Edward  age 25  Living Middle Temple, London.  Barrister

George  age 18  Living Hampden Hall West Bromwich, Independent means

H.A  aged 15  Gonville and Caius College, Cambridge

[bobtonks]

Thanks for looking. It is possible that they were overseas in 1841.

[barryd]

1861 Census as prior posting above. George A. (Algernon) Baumgartner, born Coniscliffe,  (Darlington), County Durham. Son of Henry Algernon Baumgartner (Vicar of Coniscliffe) and Frances Octavia Wilkinson. GAB born 2 March 1850 and baptized 31 March 1850, both Coniscliffe. GAB married
Florence Harper, Trincomalee, Ceylon, 16 November 1878.

[warren71]

Hi,

Does anyone know that one of the Baumgartners in and around 1850 to 1900's changed his name from Baumgartner to Perera while living in Ceylon due to a family dispute. His brother continued as a Baumgatner. This Baumgartner arrived in Ceylon around 1850, married a roman catholic girl known to us as Katherine Rye or Catherine Rice or Ryan from Ireland.

I am a descendant of this Baumgartner Perera paternal line and seeking this Baumgartner Family. Not many Baumgartners families visited Ceylon (probably only one family) so it is possible this John Baumgartner and his children has some link to the story in Ceylon.

thanks