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« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 18:53 BST (UK) »
I think James snr. is in Wales in 1871, calling himself James Davies.
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« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 19:13 BST (UK) »
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I think James snr. is in Wales in 1871, calling himself James Davies

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« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 19:20 BST (UK) »
Well the place of birth he gave and we have found they were using Davies later 2+ 2 and I think that's him.



Another thought. Rangeworthy batisms are only online up to 1812, but there are loads of Davies baptisms. I wonder if James was born Davies and his mother later married a Strange?
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« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 21:51 BST (UK) »
Confusing, isn't she? I am very fond of Eunice and her rackety life.  The James Davies she was living with seems to be too young to be the James STRANGE aged 52, widower in Newhaven.

I have endlessly looked at the marriage certificate, which does say James, not Reuben, although the writing is terrible. I have also had various clever family historians look at it over the years, and they agree.

Eunice had a kid who died with Reuben in 1895 in Hawkesbury, Gloucs, both names on certificates so?  This seems to indicate she was actually a bit of a goer (or at least had two families going in the 1890s). I always thought the Newhaven marriage might be of convenience, to legitimise Annie Louisa Ellen.  Perhaps she just ran off with James Davies.

I have emailed my ? second cousin once removed whom you kindly found on curiousfox, and invited them to have a look on here.

Any more suggestions?

Would there be any point in ordering the marriage cert from Sussex, do they copy or type them?
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« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 21:55 BST (UK) »
Or James Davies and Reuben Strange are one and the same. But who did she marry in Newhaven?
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« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 22:14 BST (UK) »
James Davies is I think James Strange snr.
Now someone on Familysearch has obviously been researching the family as Strange, but they haven't been able to find a baptism for James Strange.
This is because I think he was born as James Davies.
Perhaps put a request on Gloucs. Look Up Requests to see if anyone has access to Rangeworthy PR's to see if there is a baptism at the right time of a James Davies to a single mother. If so then I think you need to look for her later marriage to a Strange.
Now the marriage cert for Eunice and James, it may just say 'of full age' for both the bride and groom if so it won't be of much help, but some vicars put ages on the cert. If so that would help.
You still have the problem as how Eunice ended up marrying James in Newhaven, and if she isn't living with him later where is he?
Also what happened to James wife Elizabeth?
It is going to take some untangling but I think you will get to the bottom of the story eventually.
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« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 22:21 BST (UK) »
 :D gosh, I'll take a quick read and see you tomoz...  ;)
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« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 22:42 BST (UK) »
I posted a possible death for Elizabeth in reply 17. It may explain why the 2 youngest children are in the workhouse in 1871.  There are other Elizabeth Strange entries in Gloucestershire on the 1861 census, but none that are in the area covered by Dursley registration district.
 
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« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 22:54 BST (UK) »
info for Trasks
Adeline Trask mar qtr 1926 Cardiff vol 11a pg 613 married James H George
Adeline I George b. 25/12/1904 died August 1985 South Glamorgan vol 28 pg 2222

death regs
Eunice A E Trask 21 dec qtr 1929 Cardiff vol 11a pg 464
Annie L E Trask 33 sept qtr 1913 Cardiff vol 11a pg 461

William Trask married Frances Cann march qtr 1923 Cardiff vol 11a pg 597
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
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Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
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Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb