Maria Baron

[alijet]

Sorry dashed last message off too quickly.

I will check this out, could be a spelling mistake I suppose. But then why does Johns marriage show as Maria.

Ali

[Manchester Rambler]

What I meant is that you know that a John HAKESLEY married Maria BARON in 1851, but we can't be sure she's Henry's mother without a birth cert/baptism for Henry, or a census entry showing the family together.  There's always the possibility that John married twice, or even  that this is the "wrong" John! ( In addition, illegitimate children sometimes invented a father on their marriage cert for the sake of appearances.)

HAKESLEY isn't a very common name, but unfortunately it seems to get badly mis-spelled, which doesn't help. 

I can see births on Free BMD for Amelia and Janet HEKESLEY which match Ellen's daughters in 1871, but I haven't spotted either of the boys yet.

[posteria]

Hello

In the first quarter of 1846, Ellen Bradbury married John Hexley at Manchester Cathedral.

The 1871 census entry, shown above, refers to this lady.

1851 - Ashton Under Lyne HO107/2234 Folio 152 Page 24

1861 - Ashton Under Lyne RG9/2988 Folio 19 Page 31

posteria

[Manchester Rambler]

This may be the same family in 1861, but whoever filled in the householder's form must have had very bad handwriting - it definitely says HATTERSLEY on the image.

1861
RG9/2987; Folio 19; Page 30
Coalpit Houses, Clayton
John HATTERSLEY - Head - 37 - Labourer in Chemical Works - Whaley, Derbyshire
Ellen HATTERSLEY - Wife - 36 - Manchester
William HATTERSLEY - Son - 14 - Labourer in Iron Works - Clayton
Robert HATTERSLEY - Son - 12 - Labourer in Iron Works - Clayton
James HATTERSLEY - Son - 5 - School - Clayton
Eliza HATTERSLEY - Dau - 10 - Clayton
Amelia HATTERSLEY - Dau - 2 - Clayton

IGI has extracted christening records for Eliza and Amelia HAKESLEY, daughters of John HAKESLEY and Ellen, christened 25 Dec 1861 at Clayton.

Ellen is listed as EXLEY again in 1881, and she is living with her son Wallice HAKESLEY in 1891.

Post crossed with Posteria!

[alijet]

Hi again all,

Thanks Manchester Rambler for re - explaining, sometimes I can be quite thick!!.

Found an Ellen Exley married to John in 1851 census, no children though, but suppose eldest child could have been visiting someone else.

Newton where they are living on the 1871 census is I guess Newton Heath, which is next to Clayton, so they are obviously big travelers!!

I had found different variations of Hakesley, so yes what you say is true. I have found a Henry Exley BR at Chorlton, Lancs. Tried Googling it but only comes up with Chorlton, Cheshire. Does anyone know if there is or was a Chorlton in Manchester?  If we between us all can determine Henry's birth then I will order his birth cer

Thank you all

Alison

p.s. New message just come in as I was sending this. Shall review and come back to you all

[Manchester Rambler]

This looks like Henry's birth registration - it's hard to read, and not fully transcribed on Free BMD.

Births Jun 1861
HEKESLEY      Henry Albert        
Ashton 8d 435

[Manchester Rambler]

Chorlton-on-Medlock and Chorlton-cum-Hardy are both parts of Manchester.

[alijet]

Right here goes again.

Just noticed on 1871 census details that John comes from Whaley Bridge and my father says this is where the family originally came from. So hooray!!!

Thanks for Henry Albert Hekesley BR, this is obviously a possibility, especially as Henry has a son Henry Albert.

Just so I can take the Chorlton registration out of the occasion, now that I know there are 2 Chorlton's in Manchester, does anyone know if Clayton births  would be registered under either of these Chorlton's. I have to admit leaning toward the Henry Albert Hekesley, but as my family tree as completely changed in the last few hours more than happy for you to keep guiding me

Thanks

Ali

[Manchester Rambler]

Clayton is in Ashton under Lyne registration district.

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/ashton%20under%20lyne.html