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John Heatley born Whittle le wods or was he?
« on: Saturday 06 February 10 21:00 GMT (UK) »
Ok I have traced my surgeon John Heatley back from Manchester 1851 cen to Whittle le woods 1841. He is stated as being born Whittle in 1812 on cen. I cant find him any where.


He has 2 children with second name Heys so I believe this marriage to be his parents.
 John Heatley of Preston corn dealer Mary Heys L. 25 May 1809 W: Thos Gregson, Jno Talbot m Walton le dale.
just up rd from Whittle.

any ideas welcome




Cooper     Camberwell. Manchester
Callow        I.O.M.
Ellis, Heatley, Hayden,  Manchester
Mellings     Mertha

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Re: John Heatley born Whittle le wods or was he?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 06 February 10 22:19 GMT (UK) »
On IGI there is a John Heaton who married Ellen Jackson on 19 May, 1836 at St. George, Chorley.

On  1851 census he has a son Peter Ralph Heatley born in London about  1839.  Checked on FreeBMD.  There is a Peter Ralph Jackson Heatley born West London September quarter 1838.  This suggests it is probably the right family.

If John married Ellen Jackson at St. George, Chorley you should be able to go to Parish registers. Not sure if it would name his father - but worth a try.  Could be at Lancashire Records office in Preston.


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Re: John Heatley born Whittle le wods or was he?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 06 February 10 22:28 GMT (UK) »
Don't understand what you mean by "on cen".  Oh well, maybe it doesn't matter.

On the 1851 census, although son Henry Heys has the birthplace Whittle, the father John Heatley has the birthplace of Preston, this would match better with the parents you believe are correct.

An entry in Preston Chronicle (Preston, England), Saturday, September 26, 1840; Issue 1465. lists John Heatley of Whittle Le Woods having obtained a Game Licence for 1840.
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Lunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire),
Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire),
Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford)
Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin)

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Re: John Heatley born Whittle le wods or was he?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 06 February 10 22:35 GMT (UK) »
Does this fit in? 19th May 1836 at St Laurence Chorley  John Heatley chemist and druggist of London to Ellen Jackson spinster witness John Roskell Arrowsmith l.Lucas Ann Heatley e Craven  by licence


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Re: John Heatley born Whittle le wods or was he?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 06 February 10 22:44 GMT (UK) »
cen means census sorry. I have all on this man from 41 to death yes he married 1836.
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An entry in Preston Chronicle (Preston, England), Saturday, September 26, 1840; Issue 1465. lists John Heatley of Whittle Le Woods having obtained a Game Licence for 1840.

 hmm why would he want that? interesting
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Cooper     Camberwell. Manchester
Callow        I.O.M.
Ellis, Heatley, Hayden,  Manchester
Mellings     Mertha

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Re: John Heatley born Whittle le wods or was he?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 06 February 10 22:46 GMT (UK) »
There is a document on the National Archives Site I think it would be well worth your while investigating, so many names are ringing bells.

[W1837 H3].
Heatley v Rose. Bill and two answers.
Plaintiffs: John Heatley and wife.
Defendants: Lawrence Lucas and wife, Elizabeth Rose, Margaret Jackson, Ellen Jackson, John Crook, William Heys and John Eastwood.

Also something else of interest

Ralph Heatley of Whittle-le-Woods, John Heatley of Samlesbury, and Thomas Blacklidge of Chorley, gents. (executors of John Kemps of Sephton, gent.) to Oliver Martin of Liverpool, biscuit maker. [Lancashire Record Office, Molyneux, eams of sefton] Date: 1772.

Seems worth a visit to the Lancashire Record Office.

He was one of hundreds obtaining a game licence, nothing special about it except the confirmation of where he was living.
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Lunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire),
Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire),
Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford)
Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin)

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Re: John Heatley born Whittle le wods or was he?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 06 February 10 22:50 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Mary i have seen those befor but untill i can confirm the birth and parent s i cant claim them as mine.

I am near Preston next weekend and wil try to visit saturday




Oh by the way Ralph the name is in at least 4 generations
including my dad
Cooper     Camberwell. Manchester
Callow        I.O.M.
Ellis, Heatley, Hayden,  Manchester
Mellings     Mertha

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Re: John Heatley born Whittle le wods or was he?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 06 March 10 23:01 GMT (UK) »
I didn'tget to preston  :-\ so still stuck but i found this titbit


[no title]  DDX 108/23  8 Feb. 1783

These documents are held at Lancashire Record Office

Contents:
Conveyance: (1) Richard Pilkington of Horwich gent. (2) Ralph Heatley late of Dunken Hall now of Whittle-le-Woods, gent: (3) John Heys, formerly of Clayton-le-Woods & Manchester, now of Freckleton, soap boiler (4) John Pilkington of Preston, gent. and (5) Thomas Moss of Cuerden, gent (trustee for J.P.): for 600:-- as DDX 108/1 --: further to mortgage, as DDX 108/20.


so tempting
Cooper     Camberwell. Manchester
Callow        I.O.M.
Ellis, Heatley, Hayden,  Manchester
Mellings     Mertha

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Re: John Heatley born Whittle le wods or was he?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 06 March 10 23:20 GMT (UK) »
Don't forget that the LRO are open until 20:30 on Tuesdays. Later than most supermarkets!
Looking at ALSTON in south Ribble area, ALSTEAD and DONBAVAND/DUNBABIN etc. everywhere, HOWCROFT and MARSH in Bolton and Westhoughton, PICKERING in the Whitehaven area.

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