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Londons land Newmains
« on: Thursday 01 April 10 21:19 BST (UK) »
Hi

I hope someone can help me i have a death cert for one of my ancestors he died in 1909 in Londons Land Newmains.  He was just a baby but i don't know why he was over there as his family lived in Whiteinch in Glasgow.   I am wondering what is in Londons Land was there any hospitals or anything.

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Re: Londons land Newmains
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 01 April 10 22:07 BST (UK) »
Does the death certificate mention his usual address?

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Re: Londons land Newmains
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 01 April 10 22:34 BST (UK) »
A "Land" in Scots is a tenement building - possibly visiting relatives.

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Re: Londons land Newmains
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 01 April 10 22:37 BST (UK) »
There was a LOUDON'S LAND in Newmains, it would have been a "land of houses", usually but not always, a tenement.
Was your child named Robert A Macrae by any chance?
And, was the name Armstrong a connection?

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Re: Londons land Newmains
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 01 April 10 22:40 BST (UK) »
There was a LOUDON'S LAND in Newmains, it would have been a "land of houses", usually but not always, a tenement.
Was your child named Robert A Macrae by any chance?
And, was the name Armstrong a connection?

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The term "Land" has been used for a number of buildings but its original meaning  is a multi storey building -

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Re: Londons land Newmains
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 01 April 10 23:12 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone

Thanks for the responses.  It gave his address as 1135 Dumbarton road.  Lodger you are right it is Robert Armstrong McCrae his mother was Susan Armstrong.   I was wondering if the Armstrongs were from Newmains but i am unsure they may be Irish.

Louise
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Re: Londons land Newmains
« Reply #6 on: Friday 02 April 10 02:19 BST (UK) »
Hi Louise,

The burial records for Cambusnethan cemetery state that "Robert A Macrae, abode Newmains, aged 10 months, was interred in lair number 1745 of section E on 13th September 1909. The lair owner was William James Armstrong, engineman. Loudon's Land, Main St, Newmains.
Robert's parents are listed as Archibald Macrae and Susan Armstrong.

There were a few Armstrong families around Newmains, Joseph Armstrong and Margaret Johnston. Adam Armstrong and Margaret Thomson. Joseph Armstrong and Margaret Donald.

Main Street Newmains later became Manse Road. It is a continuation of Cambusnethan Street. All along this street were single-storey buildings, Loudon's Land being one of them.  Another was Bryson's Land where my great-grandfather was born, I have a photograph of it (too large to post, sorry) it was a long row with about 4 houses on the front and a similar 4 at the back.
My grandmother's uncle owned and lived in a two storey tenement building consisting of 2 houses on the ground floor and 2 upstairs (flats or apartments - whatever you like to call them nowadays).  That building was called Paterson's Land and it was in Dalziel Street Motherwell. It was still in the family until it was demolished in the 1960s but by then the term "land" had fallen into disuse and it was known as Paterson's building. 

Good luck with your research.

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Re: Londons land Newmains
« Reply #7 on: Friday 02 April 10 11:07 BST (UK) »
Lodger, are you familiar with a house called "Whitestripe", the home of the Russell's of Newmains? does it still exist......Skoosh.
A Land was originally a narrow strip of land or "Lang Rig" the width of a house, stretching back from a street. As the town, and population pressure grew, this resulted in storeyed development. Often the buildings at the rear accessed by a Pend through the ground floor.

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Re: Londons land Newmains
« Reply #8 on: Friday 02 April 10 12:17 BST (UK) »
Hi

Thanks everyone.  Lodger thanks for all the extra bits that will help me find the Armstrongs i thought they may have been from Fermanagh as the McCreas married with Armstrongs over there.  It is also interesting to see the change in the McCrea spelling it must of been Archibald who done this i know someone done it as they thought it made them sound more Scottish and make getting work easier it has been changed back again.

Just one thing how did you know that was who i was looking for.

Thanks Louise ;D
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