Help needed,says he's 'born in England'

[snowyw]

Uuumm
In 1841 there are two, one born 1836, Veryan the other 1838 Ludgvan Cornwall.

After that one or the other appear
in 1851 as above
1861 the other one
1871 Not sure which one, but farm lab born Grampound
1881 the Veryan one is on the'Bessie' (vessels) as an officer ....

Sue

[Valda]

Hi

Have you requested a search in Beaver County vital records for his marriage to Annie to see what details that might hold, or his children's births to see whether Nicholas was his full name.


1880 census Freedom Beaver County
Nickolos Banfield 34 Laborer born in England , father and mother born England
Annie C. Banfield 21 Keeping House Born Ireland, father and mother born Ireland
Henry T. Banfield 5 Son born Pennsylvania, father born England, mother born Ireland
Mary E. Banfield 3 Daughter born Pennsylvania, father born England, mother born Ireland
Jane Banfield 1 born Pennsylvania, father born England, mother born Ireland


Regards

Valda

[alpinecottage]

How do you "know" his age? If for example, his wife was much younger than he was, it may have suited him to knock 10 years off his age.  I think that's more likely than him renaming himself "Nicholas", which is a fairly unusual name

It's interesting he lived in Somerset Co, as Somerset is in the south west of England and presumably immigrants from Somerset, England had given the county its name

[Numan]

No, I don't know that he told his age correctly, so he could have been the "barnfield- coaldigger' from Somerset Co.

  The only place i am sure he lived was Freedom, Beaver Co, PA., from the 1880 census.
 Someone else could have put his age down wrong, even his wife.

  I've tried to get a death cert on him, and a marriage on him and Hannah(Annie), but to no avail. 
  Pa is just the hardest place to get paper from.
   I did get their youngest child's Delayed Birth Certificate', which had Nicholas' wife's maiden full name on it, but said he was deceased.

   She states she had 8 children, but I have only found 4-luckily one being my GGrandmother.
   PA could not give me birth records on any of them, as PA did not keep those records at the time.
    No death records either.  His wife remarried by 1896/7-no divorce or death for Nicholas can I find.
  I have a marriage certificate for Nicholas' daughter, 1896, but the 'parents' names are just written in by clerk as 'Nicholas and Hannah Banfield'.
  Children's names I know are
  Henry T
  Mary E.
  Jane Hannah (Jennie)
  Alexander Boyd
   

[Numan]

   Does anyone think maybe it was Wales or Scotland that Nicholas came from?

   Also, another lead I had gotten was that there was a 'name change' in Massachusetts, of a George N. Lucian
          to:
George Nicholas Banfield.
   I was told it was in 1780-1892
I  am still working on where to get documentation of this-maybe more info on the paperwork.
   I have looked up Lucian everywhere too, and have gotten nowhere.
  Thanks for all the help!  There's going to be an answer to this, somehow!
   

[carol8353]

When I saw that one of the children was called Alexander Boyd- I thought of Scotland.
But the rest don't sound very Scottish 

Carol

[Numan]

  Nicholas Banfield's wife- Annie C.
 
 states her name as Hannah in the 1900, (I think), US census, when she's remarried in abt. 1897 to Albert G. McClure....

   When I got the Delayed Birth Certificate for her youngest son, Alexander Boyd b.1888, dated 1942 (I believe I am remembering this correctly)...Hannah aka Annie C.  writes: 'mother's maiden name-Hannah Boyd Courtney'    Birthplace Ballymoney Ireland.

  I suspect Hannah's own mother's maiden name was Boyd.
  Was that the name you thought of Scotland with?  The Boyd part?

   But I've been trying to get leads on her too, after her arrival in US 1970-she's just as much of a dilemma as Nicholas!!!!!!!!!

  I'm in a tough spot with these two!

[carol8353]

Both the Alexander and the Boyd....not sure if Boyd might be more Irish now

Carol

[Valda]

Hi

Beaver County courthouse didn't have a record of the marriage? My understanding is U.S. marriage records are at local not state level.


What information did Nicholas' naturalization records give?

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=448403.msg3107937;topicseen


Regards

Valda