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Finland - Johanna Vatkimen
« on: Monday 26 April 10 20:58 BST (UK) »
I am trying to find out information on my great great grandmother Johanna Vatkimen m. Gabriel Parola.  The only information I have is she was born in Finland apx. 1880 and died around 1918 in New York City.  I believe she died of the flu.  I have gone all the regular routes with census, immigration and still cannot find any information.  Any help please on where to look next.
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Hansen
Parola
Valkeinen/Valkeistenmaa
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Re: Finland - Johanna Vatkimen
« Reply #1 on: Monday 26 April 10 21:07 BST (UK) »
Johanna Parola (age 47) died 27 Oct.1918 Manhattan, N.Y.
http://www.italiangen.org/VRECLIST.stm

There's also a death listed for a Gabriel Parola (age 78) 20 Jan.1945 Kings Co. which might be her husband.
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Re: Finland - Johanna Vatkimen
« Reply #2 on: Monday 26 April 10 21:20 BST (UK) »
Wow you are fast.  I have been looking and couldn't find a thing on her.  Thank you so much.
Kristen
Roscommon, Kilglass, Knockhall
Shanahan
McHugh
Denmark/Finland
Hansen
Parola
Valkeinen/Valkeistenmaa
Russia
Austria

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Re: Finland - Johanna Vatkimen
« Reply #3 on: Monday 26 April 10 21:27 BST (UK) »
Now you need to find her in U.S. census records to see how long she was in U.S., how long married, etc.
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Re: Finland - Johanna Vatkimen
« Reply #4 on: Monday 26 April 10 21:47 BST (UK) »
Found em in the US Census 1910.
Transcribing....
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Surnames include: FRANCIS in Glamorgan / LANWORN in Monmouth / BLACKMAN, RUSSELL in Sussex / KEARSEY, BARLTROP in Essex / TOOKEY in Leicestershire / LASHMORE in London and Kent / GOODWIN, PASQUE, ATTOE, FISK, QUINTON, RUFFLES, CULLINGFORD and others in Suffolk / MAYOSS anywhere anytime! / GILMORE in Belfast

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Re: Finland - Johanna Vatkimen
« Reply #5 on: Monday 26 April 10 21:58 BST (UK) »
1910 US Federal Census - New York
Manhattan Ward 9 (District 128)
Norton Street

Gabriel Barola [note spelling!] - head - age 44 - married 14 years - born Finland - both parents Finnish - immigrated to US in 1890 - occupation: longshoreman docks

Johanna - wife - age 37 - married 14 years - born Finland - both parents Finnish - immigrated to US in 1894 - no occupation

Amil - step son - age 16 - apprentice printing store
August - son - age 12
William - son - age 11
Charles - son - age 8
Jenny - daughter - age 7
Emily - daughter - age 5
John - son - age 3
Henry - son - age 7mths

All eight children born in New York.

Interesting that Amil is listed as Gabriel's stepson. This suggests that this was not Johanna's first marriage.

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In 1930 Gabriel (now listed as Gabriel Parola, widower, captain on boats) was still living in Manhatten with Emily and John. There was also a 19 year old son - possibly Henry but the writing is hard to decipher.
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Surnames include: FRANCIS in Glamorgan / LANWORN in Monmouth / BLACKMAN, RUSSELL in Sussex / KEARSEY, BARLTROP in Essex / TOOKEY in Leicestershire / LASHMORE in London and Kent / GOODWIN, PASQUE, ATTOE, FISK, QUINTON, RUFFLES, CULLINGFORD and others in Suffolk / MAYOSS anywhere anytime! / GILMORE in Belfast

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Re: Finland - Johanna Vatkimen
« Reply #6 on: Monday 26 April 10 22:06 BST (UK) »
Some more possibilities-

Emil Parola (age 49) died 27 May 1942 Bronx- could be "Amil" in 1910 census.
William Parola (age 38) died 30 May 1936 Manhattan.
John Parola (age 35) died 11 Nov.1942 Kings Co.

Emily Parola m.6 Dec.1929 Manhattan to H.H.W Hansen.
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Re: Finland - Johanna Vatkimen
« Reply #7 on: Monday 26 April 10 22:10 BST (UK) »
Very odd!  This time the family is listed under a totally different surname but it is obviously the same family!

1900 US Federal Census - New York
Manhattan (District 142)

Gaberial Maronia - head - born Jan 1866 - age 34 - married 5 years - born Finland - immigrated to US 1886 - dock laborer
Johannah - wife - wife - born August 1872 - age 28 - married 5 years - born Finland - immigrated 1891
Emile - son adopted - born March 1894 - age 6 - born New York
August - son - born Jan 1898 - age 2 - born New York
William - son - born April 1899 - age 1 - born New York
Margaret - daur - born May 1900 - age 0 - born New York
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Surnames include: FRANCIS in Glamorgan / LANWORN in Monmouth / BLACKMAN, RUSSELL in Sussex / KEARSEY, BARLTROP in Essex / TOOKEY in Leicestershire / LASHMORE in London and Kent / GOODWIN, PASQUE, ATTOE, FISK, QUINTON, RUFFLES, CULLINGFORD and others in Suffolk / MAYOSS anywhere anytime! / GILMORE in Belfast

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Re: Finland - Johanna Vatkimen
« Reply #8 on: Monday 26 April 10 22:11 BST (UK) »
Some more possibilities-

Emil Parola (age 49) died 27 May 1942 Bronx- could be "Amil" in 1910 census.
William Parola (age 38) died 30 May 1936 Manhattan.
John Parola (age 35) died 11 Nov.1942 Kings Co.

Emily Parola m.6 Dec.1929 Manhattan to H.H.W Hansen.

Yup - that makes sense. Interestingly Emily is recorded as married in the 1930 Census but listed as "Parola"
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Surnames include: FRANCIS in Glamorgan / LANWORN in Monmouth / BLACKMAN, RUSSELL in Sussex / KEARSEY, BARLTROP in Essex / TOOKEY in Leicestershire / LASHMORE in London and Kent / GOODWIN, PASQUE, ATTOE, FISK, QUINTON, RUFFLES, CULLINGFORD and others in Suffolk / MAYOSS anywhere anytime! / GILMORE in Belfast