Hi Justin
I have two ways to attack this problem .
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Method 1
Somebody suggested to me who has a connection with GPE that
George England the Elder may have been born in Stepney
23 June 1713 SAINT DUNSTAN, STEPNEY, LONDON, ENGLAND John England Mary London
Born to John and Mary
The reason he gave was the same John and Mary have a son called John possibly his brother?
Born 11th April 1717 Saint Dunstan , Stepney , London , England
This may well be true 😊
If there were a paper trail to this I would stop 😊
That is my first way to attack the problem
I came here to find someone who had such a trail.
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Method 2
Depending on which years you use on ancestry say 1715 to 1740
You only get about 25 George Englands as the name is so uncommon
The George England born on the 23rd June 1713 is on my list maybe he is the one with a paper trail I would stop.
So me second method is based on my geekiness 😊 Before uni where I read Physics I used to solve all manner of logic problems for fun with my PC , sadly I do not have limitless time now.
Of the 25 for example one of them was born in Bessingham to Charles and Mary in 1727. He is another one on my list.
As I said George England is an ucommon name.
In 1749 in Bessingam there is only one George England having children married to Hannah.
So I cross the 1713 George off my list.
This list of 25 , well 24 now 😊
This list has
Has 7 George Englands from Norfork, 2 from York, 4 from London etc etc.
I know I could go through this list and cross off a lot more I may do this time permiting
However when I was at Uni this is just the kind if thing I would of loved to do so I am hoping to attract someone like me with lots of time.
As they could well identify George England the elders birth place etc etc as the original poster mentioned.
So I do not wish to have such a person put off by the fact organ makers are clearly different to organists.
Suppose you were trying to trace a famous scientist who made a significant discovery and had an uncommon name like George England.
If one of his grand children was a maths teacher , it would be perfectly true it would be a totally different type of animal.
However the most common occupation of the possible comtenders is agricultural labourer.
So it is a bit like Bayesian probability.
Of the 25 about 8 will have grandchildren who have very low skilled jobs.
So it would be “more likely” the descedent who was a maths teacher had a famous scientist than an agricultural labourer.
As well as that I think there was probably money to be made making organs.
My ancestor the organist sent his children to Blundells
http://www.blundells.org/If and off course nobody knows George England the elder had grand children I do not think they would be agricultural labourers.
I think they would be in professions related to music , or else in occupations that require capital to start up.
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Excuse the long response method 2 is the Sherlock Holmes kind of method about eliminating the improbable.
I do realise that George England may not of had children so the whole think would be moot.
Also though the marriage records are clearly true. Human nature has to be taken account off.
Take the marriage this weekend of our Prince and his bride.
I understand now he has a heart condition and may or may not be able to walk his daughter down the Aisle I also “know” he stage the paparazzi photos for reasons other than making money.
If the truth is unpalatable we would only find out with other evidence and I do want get done for liable here with living people.
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As I said I do not want to put off a Sherlock Holmes genealogist who has time.
I could eliminate the Bessingham George England quickly. There are another 6 Geroge England born in Norfolk in the relevant time period.
In the period 1740 to 1777 there were 29 people born in Norfolk with a father called George England
The rarity of the George Englands name makes the exercise possible.