James SHORT - Charlotte TRIM "Lookup Request"

[pDim]

Hi there. I am after a look up please for the parents and some family details for James Short born 1808 St Mary Domhead, Wiltshire and Charlotte Trim born 1809 St Mary Domhead. James and Charlotte were married 1831. Thanks PDim

[Geoff-E]

See also this thread on the Lincs board http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,469919.0.html

[trish1120]

Do you actually have the Death Certs from NZ of James and Charlotte?
NZ Certs are incredibly informative. In fact I just got a 1888 one this week.

No ones Trees has any actual Refs to where they got their info from.
If the info on Parents came from D/Certs then I would not be so concerned.

What makes me suspicious is there is a Charlotte Trim born c 1810, Donhead St Mary, Wilts who is unmarried in all census up til 1881.

Birth/Christenings;
REUBEN, 12 May 1832/21 October 1832
ALFRED, 22 December 1833/26 January 1834
Bird Bush Independant, Donhead St Mary, Wiltshire
Parents JAMES and CHARLOTTE

Cant find any other Christenings for Elijah and Ryan.

Trish

[pDim]

A family member who has spent years doing research trying to find the parents of James and Charlotte has said the certificates she has, have nothing on them that suggests were they came from or can help. Seems all very odd. They had 4 boys in England, then moved to NZ and had more children. Why is it so hard finding this couple? There are no details for them in Wiltshire which suggests they were both born there and there are plenty of other Shorts which suggest that the Short family did live in and around Wiltshire. There is also a marrage and births of some children recorded there. There are also no records of them having been born in Lincolnshire were the family are sure they must have come from. Just don't know were to go next. Does their marrage details list anything that can help, do you have access?

[pDim]

Suz on the Lincolshire forum say the family were in Somerset on the 1841 Cenus with 3 of the 4 children. Might be possible they were born in Somerset, moved to Wiltshire were they married had 3 kids then moved back before going to New Zealand. It's all a bit of a long shot!

[suzard]

this is 1841 census

Avon St
city of bath
Parish of Walcot
Somerset
James Short 30 lab
Charlotte 30
Reuben 9
Job 7
Elijah 3
Rian? 10mth (male -very much doubt Ryan/Rian is correct name-difficult to read)

all family state "not born in county of Somerset"

HO107 970 9 9

Suz

[pDim]

Shows this family gets around. How far is Somerset from Wiltshire? Is it the children not born in Somerset or the parents as well?

[pDim]

Could I have a lookup for James Short born Donhead in 1787 woundering if this might be the father of James could help!

[suzard]

1841 All of the family have "no" -indictating "not born in county they were living in"

Donhead St Andrews is only 33 miles from Bath Somerset on present day roads

this is possibly the James you are enquiring about

1841
Donhead Wilts
James short 51 ag lab Yes
Elizabeth 54 yes
Elizabeth 11 yes
HO107 1175 10 12

1851
Milkwell Donhead Wilts
James Short head M 60 ag lab Donhead St Andrew wilts
Elizabeth wife 64 Donhead St Marys Wilts
Elizabeth daughter 21 Seamstress Donhead St Andrew Wilts
HO107 1849 70 9

1861
Milkwell Donhead Wilts
James Short Head M 70
Elizabeth wife 73
Harriett daughter 37
all b Donhead St Andrew
RG9 1320 43 9