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Jane Baguley, Wilhelm & Adelhist Kuss-Westgate 1871
« on: Tuesday 10 August 10 14:49 BST (UK) »
Hello to all!

My maternal grandmother very often wore a very unusual brooch which she'd inherited from her (Newcastle born) mother, Jane Baguley/Bagulay Bell (m William Burcham 1872)

Grandma said that Jane had been presented with it by her employer, a jeweller, to thank her for nursing his wife devotedly during her pregnancy.

Recently I managed to discover that Jane was employed as a servant in the household of Wilhelm Kuss, a jeweller,  his wife Adelhist (sp? possibly Adelheid) & their 2 month old daughter, Wilhelmina, at the time of the 1871 census.

Their address was 18 Dawson St, Westgate.


Jane & William migrated to South Australia, abt 6 years later, but I've had no luck in finding any further trace of the Kuss family and I'd like to know what became of them.

Can anybody help, please?

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Re: Jane Baguley, Wilhelm & Adelhist Kuss-Westgate 1871
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 10 August 10 15:07 BST (UK) »
I cant find Wilhelmina but this family must be connected to them in some way,

1881 census ,

34 Hawthorn Street Elswick,

Englebert Kuss,aged 41 a clock and watch maker born Germany,

Mary aged 38 born Germany

children,
Magdalena aged 9 ,
Englebert aged 5,
Ornala all born Newcastle,
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Re: Jane Baguley, Wilhelm & Adelhist Kuss-Westgate 1871
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 10 August 10 15:12 BST (UK) »
I cant find Wilhelmina but this family must be connected to them in some way,

1881 census ,

34 Hawthorn Street Elswick,

Englebert Kuss,aged 41 a clock and watch maker born Germany,


Engelbert (20) and "William" (25) KUSS, born Germany, were both unmarried lodgers in the household of clockmaker German KUSS in Newcastle in 1861: RG9/3824/65/13
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Jane Baguley, Wilhelm & Adelhist Kuss-Westgate 1871
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 10 August 10 15:21 BST (UK) »
This seems to be Wilhelmina's baptism (with Latinised names, IGI extracted record):

Gulielma Louisa Kuss
Birth: 8 FEB 1871   
Christening: 12 FEB 1871  St Mary, Newcastle Upon Tyne
Father: Gulielmi Kuss
 
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: Jane Baguley, Wilhelm & Adelhist Kuss-Westgate 1871
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 10 August 10 15:26 BST (UK) »
I know you really want to find out what happened to the family after 1871.

But this is rather nice....from the Newcastle Courant, 19 January 1855

Now is the time for knowing the exact time.
Please visit G. Kuss and Co's
Pilgrim Street,
top of New Bridge-st,
Where you can have all kinds of SCIENTIFIC CLOCKS
with or without alarums.
N.B. Clocks cleaned and repaired.
OBSERVE! G. KUSS & Co.,
Head of Pilgrim Street, Newcastle


Jennifer
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Re: Jane Baguley, Wilhelm & Adelhist Kuss-Westgate 1871
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 10 August 10 15:40 BST (UK) »
hi
in Kellys Directory for 1883 there is Andrew Kuss & Co Jewellers 42 Collingwood St Newcastle and a G Kuss & Sons Watchmakers 6 Northumberland St

and in the same directory for 1894...A Kuss & Co 58 Falconer St Newcastle and two Kuss & Co's one at 42 Collingwood St and the other at 37a Shield Rd.

Steve
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Re: Jane Baguley, Wilhelm & Adelhist Kuss-Westgate 1871
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 10 August 10 15:45 BST (UK) »
1881
there is a family of
                            joseph kuss 28- head- jeweller- born- newcastle
                            william          22- brother -jeweller-born -baden germany
                            josephine     16-  sister housekeeper-born germany

                               newcastle
Lowcock-Greasbrough
Morris-Derbyshire/Greasbrough/Hatfield
Chipp-Isle of wight/Mexborough/Derbyshire
Wallace+Wylie-Derbyshire
Rhoadhouse+Sellars-Greasbrough
Rickman-Hampshire New Forest+Johnson Hampshire/South Shields
Phillips/Carpenter-Lymington Hampshire
Goodwin+Beaney-Lewisham/Kent
Sayers-London/East Grinstead

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Re: Jane Baguley, Wilhelm & Adelhist Kuss-Westgate 1871
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 10 August 10 15:53 BST (UK) »
there is also a family of
german kuss-head 46yrs-
andrew -brother-30yrs
william lodger-25yrs
all clock makers in newcastle-1861
Lowcock-Greasbrough
Morris-Derbyshire/Greasbrough/Hatfield
Chipp-Isle of wight/Mexborough/Derbyshire
Wallace+Wylie-Derbyshire
Rhoadhouse+Sellars-Greasbrough
Rickman-Hampshire New Forest+Johnson Hampshire/South Shields
Phillips/Carpenter-Lymington Hampshire
Goodwin+Beaney-Lewisham/Kent
Sayers-London/East Grinstead

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Re: Jane Baguley, Wilhelm & Adelhist Kuss-Westgate 1871
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 11 August 10 08:37 BST (UK) »
Thankyou, Jane, Steve, AVM, Jennifer & Radcliff!

I'm so impressed by the generosity of R'chatters.  When scraps of family lore from long dead rels can start to be stitched together with the help of strangers- that's really something, isn't it?

2 thumbs up, everyone!

Ann
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