James Freeman born 1811

[caribou]

I'm trying to find the parents of James Freeman. According to the 1851, 61 and 71 censuses, he was born in Oldpark, Shropshire.

He married Louisa (?),possibly in Birmingham, as that's where their 2 children were born, in 1830 and 1833. I believe she died between 1833 and 1838, because in 1838 he married Mary Cottrell, in Birmingham.

Any help would be appreciated.

Bob.

[CaroleW]

because in 1838 he married Mary Cottrell, in Birmingham.

His marriage cert will show his fathers name which may help to find him in parish records - but no guarantees

[caribou]

Hi CaroleW,

How come I didn't think of that? As it was his second marriage, it hadn't occurred to me.

Thanks,

Bob.

[caribou]

OK, got the certificate, shows the Father's name as William, a Miner.

IGI has a marriage of William Freeman and Mary Round (Bround) 3/12/1807 Madeley, which would fit with James' birth.

Again, IGI has a baptism  for a James of 6/11/1808 Dawley Magna.

Bob.

[CaroleW]

Hi Bob

I couldn't find Old Park in the directory of Registration districts to check whether Madeley/Dawley Magna were in that area - or vice versa

I found this link from another message board  http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-30788.html  and one reply says

Old Park is an area of what is now Telford & Wrekin in Shropshire.

In 1870 it came under Malinslee, which was a township and ecclesiastical district taken out of the parish of Dawley, which it adjoins. You could therefore try both Malinslee and Dawley, (you could also try Little Dawley or Dawley Parva).

So it looks like a good IGI find

[caribou]

Hi CaroleW,

Thanks for the link. I'm fairly confident about the IGI refs (or as confident as is possible with the IGI), they were both Extracted.

I hadn't realised there was so much mining in that area, so that fits with the father William being from there.

Best wishes,

Bob.

[Susan Haining]

Hello

I am also interested in James Freeman born c 1808 Old Park
shropshire.

I beleive him to be My gtx2 grandmother Mary Freeman 
I think she may have been from the first marriage.
To Mary Edmunds ??
I have not been abl to unravel the mystery
Regards  Sue

[caribou]

Hi Sue,

The FamilySearch website (IGI) has two James Freemans from the Old Park area.

One baptised 18 Jan 1807 Dawley Magna, parents James and Elizabeth
and a second baptised 6 November 1808 Dawley Magna, parents William and Mary.

(Old Park lies in the Dawley Magna area)

The second one is the line I have been following, working backwards from the censuses and the marriage certificate for James' second marriage, in 1838, to Mary Cottrell, which gives his father's name as William. James was a Carpenter and William a Miner.

I found a marriage for James Freeman to Mary Edmunds on the IGI :- 3 April 1831, St Phillips, Birmingham Warwickshire.

IGI also has the following births to parents James and Mary, all baptised at St Phillips:-

Mary Freeman    baptised 2 May 1831
Ann Freeman      baptised 11 August 1834
George Henry     baptised 26 September 1834
Elizabeth Freeman baptised 8 February 1836
Charles Alfred freeman baptised 16 January 1837

Please let me know if we are following the same line.

Happy hunting,

Bob.

[Susan Haining]

Hi Bob

I believe the James 1808 father William Is the father of my Mary as on her death certificate fathers name James
but then it complicates an mother is Mary.

She married in 1854 to Aaron Butler and in 1878 emigrated to Aust.

with her issue she named them all almost the same and her siblings???
so I do believe she is related to him but to refine that relationship is the hard
d/o Mary Cotterill or Mary ?

I have tried in vain to contact members of the family in England but the old
aunts when the were alive claimed Mary Cotterill  very messy jigsaw.

Thank you   Sue