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Ashburnham in Sussex
« on: Wednesday 10 November 10 10:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi, does anyone know anything about  Judith Butcher born c 1797 in Ashburnham/Burwash/locality, please?Her illegitimate son James was born in 1814 in Burwash. Judith was a servant. The reputed father was Bertram Ashburnham (4th Earl) but that would be tricky to prove!
Hope someone out there can help
Many thanks
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Re: Ashburnham in Sussex
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 10 November 10 13:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi fishytales,

I cant find Judiths Christening but hopefully someone else can :)
Hopefully I am not going over what you already have but it will help others trying to find info for her.

James BUTCHER, Baptised 31 July 1814, St Bartholomew, Burwash, Sussex
Mother JUDITH, Servant, Abode Burwash
(Source FreeREG)

Marriage;
Judith BUTCHER
Henry PETTIT, 14 April 1818, Wellingh, Burwash, Sussex
(Source IGI + Familysearch Pilot)

Unless I have got this wrong she seems to be known as JULIA after this ???;

1861 Julia is a Widow living in Burwash with Children still at home;
Jabis 1847
Levi 1848
She is born c 1797, Ashburham and a Housekeeper to Henry COLLINS

Marriage Reg from FreeBMD;
Henry COLLINS, December 1864, Ticehurst, 2b 145
On the same page is JULIA PETTET

Marriage Cert will provide her Fathers name ;)
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Re: Ashburnham in Sussex
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 10 November 10 13:59 GMT (UK) »
Familysearch Pilot has the second Marriage :)

Henry COLLINS, Father Henry Collins
Julia PETTET, Father CHARLES BUTCHER
30 October 1864, Burwash, Sussex

Now we just need a Christening c 1797 under Judith/Julia.

Trish :)
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Re: Ashburnham in Sussex
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 10 November 10 14:16 GMT (UK) »
FreeREG has these 2 Christenings in Burwash;
CHARLES Butcher 17 July 1810
REBEKAH Butcher 03 October 1813
Parents CHARLES and MARY Butcher

Now Charles could be a Sibling of Judith/Julia or even her Parents still having Children.
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Re: Ashburnham in Sussex
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 10 November 10 14:34 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Trish, I had been told some time ago that Judith was probably the daughter of Charles Butcher and Mary Clark, but their marriage was well after Judith's approximate birth. For that reason, I need to get the info from the parish register.You have been a  great help,thank you.

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Re: Ashburnham in Sussex
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 10 November 10 14:40 GMT (UK) »
Someone has a Tree for Charles c 1810 as above.
Parents CHARLES Butcher and Mary CLARK
Siblings;
JUDITH, 1801-1886
REBEKAH 1813
Married Elizabeth CHAPMAN, 28 May 1833, Brede, Sussex
Died 1872, Young, NSW, Australia
(My area!)

Now there is a Submitted Record of Charles/Mary Marrying 1809 on the IGI
Tree has date of 12 May 1800 Ashburnham
Maybe Judith was born before the Marriage and is under Clark?
Census has her born in the range of 1795-1801

Off to bed for me,
Hopefully someone has access to Parish Registers and the little elves will work whilst I am asleep.

Trish :)
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Re: Ashburnham in Sussex
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 10 November 10 14:46 GMT (UK) »
You are a star; have a good sleep!

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Re: Ashburnham in Sussex
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 11 November 10 09:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi fishytales

May have found Judith but a bit later than you expect

Judith Butcher baptised at Ashburnham, on 28 January 1801 to Charles and Mary Butcher

Kerry  :)
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Re: Ashburnham in Sussex
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 11 November 10 09:54 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much for that,you are very kind. Did you find it in the parish registers?
This means that she was only 13 when her son James was born.Poor girl!

Thanks again
fishytales