Sarah HARRIS/WILLIAMS/HUMPHRIES/SMITH b.1815 Burford

[Steph]

Many thanks for that, I had wondered about the 'Forest' name previously but forgotten it.  So far with my Oxon family I've simply been working through the parish registers and haven't really looked at wills for this branch.  Lucy has been a bit of a brick wall for a long time so I've gone through the regs for other family branches and just forgotten about her.  I might just take a bit of time and go through the regs of Combe and Minster Lovell and see if I can match them.

My main aim in life at present is to find the point at which my parents are related. They say everybody is and I have found a twig of my mum's family (which also provides me with a Norman ancestry and beyond) zeroing in on the Hook Norton and Charlbury areas.  I think it would be great to tell them they are  actually cousins of sorts!

Regards
Steph
 

[Steph]

Further to earlier e-mail I have looked at Combe and Minster Lovell and found the following entries on the OFHS CDs (note BTs are missing for various years):

Combe Harrises only to end 1799:
Chr
25 May 1651 Jeane d Giles & …
4 Jun 1644 Hester d Richard & ….
24 Jul 1663 Richard s Giles & ….
5 Apr 1675 John Forrest s Forrest & Alice (note states first example of child with 2 Christian names)
29 Dec 1676 Jeane d Forrest & Alice
22 Nov 1678 Richard s Forrest & Alice
24 Mar 1680 Mary d Forrest & Alice
23 Feb 1687 Jeane d Richard & Anne
30 Jan 1689 Richard s Richard & Anne
6 Sept 1747 Mary d Giles & Mary
10 May 1751 Richard s Giles & Mary
9 Mar 1755 Richard s Giles & Mary
29 Jun 1775 Martha d Will & Mary
8 Mar 1778 Ann d Will & Mary
19 Mar 1780 Ann d Will &Mary
20 Jun 1784 Thomas s Will &Mary
2 Jan 1791 William s James & Sarah
3 Jul 1791 Edward s William & Mary

Marriages
17 Apr 1654 Richard Harris & Elizabeth Pokins
24 May 1726 John Bartlett (Aston Bampton) & Mary Harris
21 May 1747 Mr Edward Golding (Shillingford) & Mrs Jane Harris
22 Oct 1738 William White & Lucy Harris (of Wooton)
2 Nov 1777 William Harris & Mary Collier

Burials
12 Sept 1676 Jeane wid Giles
20 Aug 1677 Jeane d Forrest
18 Jun 1681 Forrest ……………….. in the church
12 Jul 1687 Mary d Richard
29 Nov 1690 John Forest ……………  in the church
26 Jul 1694 Anne wid Richard
19 Aug 1729 Amy wid Richard jnr
10 Feb 1735 Margery d Richard
25 Nov 1752  Mary w Richard snr
23 Dec 1752 Amey d Richard jnr
9 Jun 1753 Richard s Giles & Mary
21 Feb 1765 Richard
11 May 1779  Ann               infant
27 Sept 1781 Ann              infant
30 Sept 1791 Edward         infant
18 Oct 1791 Mary

BTs missing for a number of years

Minster Lovell
28 Aug 1682  Richard s Robert
30 Jun 1685 Robert s Robt & Mary
11 Mar 1722 Nehetabel d Richard & Mary
12 Apr 1725 Winifred d Richard & Mary
20 Jun 1727 Richard s Richard & Mary
17 Dec 1727 Ann d John & Ann
1 Aug 1729 Robert s Richard & Mary
12 Apr 1730 Mary d John & Ann
1 Jun 1746 Susannah d Thomas & Sarah
1 Jun 1748 William s Thomas & Sarah
13 Oct 1750 Willliam s John & Mary
1751 no date Richard s Thomas & Sarah
1751 no date Thoms s Cesar & Ann
20 May 1753 Samuel s John & Mary
30 Jun 1754 Sarah d Samuel & Mary
5 Apr 1755 Tabitha d Thomas & Sarah
6 Jul 1755 Anna d John & Mary
5 Jan 1756 John s Samuel & Mary
1 Feb 1756 Jonathon s Cesar & Ann
6 Nov 1757 John s John & Mary
13/18 Jan 1761 Bety Cook Harris d Bety
14 Mar 1761 Stephen s Cesar & Ann
7 Feb 1762 Mary d Samuell & Mary
25 Jul 1762 Hanah d John & Mary
25 Dec 1764 Jonathon s John & Mary
28 Jul 1765 Sarah d Thomas & Mary
25 May 1766 Abigail d  Thomas & Ann
24 Apr 1768 Ann d John & Mary
26 Feb 1769 Thomas s Thomas & Ann
24 Feb 1770 Thomas s John &Mary
14 Oct 1770 James s Casor & Meril
20 Apr 1772 John s Cesor & Meril
28 Jun 1772 Betty d Thomas & Anne

No Minster Lovell weddings until 1748.  At a glance there is nothing immediately obvious to connect them but it does give Gyles' wife name as Jeane via the burials.

Whilst I have not found much else as present, being sidetracked as usual, I did find a Gyles Harris in Witney St Mary: Witney 19 Apr 1598 Gyles s Nicolas chr

I have only been looking early 1500s to end 1700s in the above.

Regards
Steph

[supermoussi]

Burials
18 Jun 1681 Forrest ……………….. in the church
29 Nov 1690 John Forest ……………  in the church

What is the significance of "in the church"?

[Steph]

Haven't the faintest at present, I just copied word for word!

Steph

[supermoussi]

Thanks Steph.

Not sure if this is linked but just found this:-

"William Forrest had been a monk of Thame. He w<u ministering there in 1551 and 1.)5~
(F. G. Lee, The History, Description and Antiquitiu of tlu Prtbtndal Church of the Bussed Virgin Mary of
Thanu (1883), p. 401). He was vicar of B1edlow from 1556 to 1576, when he resigned. In 1558
he presented to Queen Mary, to whom he was sometime chaplain, ' Grysilde the Seconde'J a narrative
in verse of the divorce and death of Katharine of Aragon."

http://oxoniensia.org/volumes/1957/woodman.pdf

[supermoussi]

There is also the following London marriage:-

24 MAY 1584      Saint Margaret, Westminster    RICHARD HARRIS m. ELIZABETH FOREST

It would be the right date to be Giles HARRIS of Combe's parents or grandparents. Might be worth checking out London FORREST/FOREST wills as well as Oxon ones..

[supermoussi]

Looks like you might have a martyr in the family! From wiki:-

"John Forest (1471-London, 22 May 1538) was an English Franciscan Friar and martyr.
Born in the Oxford area...."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Forrest_%28martyr%29

Other info:-

http://oce.catholic.com/index.php?title=John_Forest%2C_Blessed

and a picture:-

http://www.stetheldreda.com/gallery.html
http://www.stetheldreda.com/images/gallery/martyr8.jpg

[Steph]

That sounds really interesting, will look into it more at the end of the week.  Just bought another 2 OFHS CDs BIC01 & HED02 (I'll have the whole collection at this rate! And I'll be broke.) on my search for the elusive Nicylas/Nicholas Dormer who married in Cuddesdon.
There's an ongoing search on the internet to try and tie the Dormer's of Oxfordshire to those of Bucks.

Regards
Steph

[supermoussi]

What sort of date was your Nicholas DORMER around? I am looking at some families including the DORMERs at the moment who are distant in-laws of in-laws of in-laws of one another, so if I come acrosss a Nicholas I will let you know.