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Re: Benjamin and Frances James
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 19 May 11 14:44 BST (UK) »
Very very many thanks to KGarrad, Omega1 and Orielbenfro - fantastic help

Frances James is buried at St Gilead which my family (presumably very loosely) referred to as Maidenwells. Omega's point about non-conformists may well be very relevant.

With regards to Orielpenfro's last post I have managed to discover that in the 1851 census for Monkton that Francis Hendy, aged 4 and described as 'nursechild' lived in the household of Rosanna Furlong described as a pauper widow. Also living there is an Emma Moody (I think the name is Moody but it does look a little like Hendy), aged 23 described as a cripple and a pauper serveant. I am beginning to become a little emotional thinking about some of the circumstances. In the 1861 census a 14 year old Francis Hendy was listed as a visitor at an address in St Mary Pembroke, but intriguingly it is given as a male person. in 1871 a 24 year old female Francis Hendy is a serveant at a different address in St Mary.

Once again very ,many thanks

Brian
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Re: Benjamin and Frances James
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 19 May 11 15:40 BST (UK) »
As far as I understand it the term Saint is not used in reference to non conformist chapels it is just Gilead Chapel. It is a couple of miles from my abode, I have to go there to record some military related ex-service headstones do you require any jpegs?

Francis with an ‘i’ is male. Frances with an ‘e’ is female.

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Re: Benjamin and Frances James
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 19 May 11 16:19 BST (UK) »
Hi Brian

A lot of my Welsh Ancestors were Baptist.Trying to find any records is like searching for Gold Dust.I have even been to the NLW several times & come out deflated :'(

I to inherited a Bible which hard a large piece of paper that my Grandmother had put all her Aunts,Uncles Mum & Dads birth & burial dates plus my Father & Uncles birth date.This got me started with researching.

It was my Father who told me about Baptisums for Non Conformist.He should me the part of the River where he was Baptised.

I have never come across a Chaple that has Saint before the name.
omega :)

Pembrokeshire
James,Gibby,David/Davies,Evan/s,Edward,Thomas,Griffith,Brown,Richards,Phillipps
Carmarthenshire
Thomas,Wilkin,James
Glamorganshire
James
Husbands side
Sussex,Mitchell,White,Hew/Hugh,Peter/s,Lower,Goring,Skinner,Cavey,Padgham,Brann,Graves,Hards,Easton,Moon,Gibb/s,Shepherd
Kent,Curties,Harris/Cleverly
Buckinhamshire
Shephard,Tuck,Philips

Scotland,Riddle

Todd,could be Old Windsor or somewhere I Lincolnshire,John Todd didn't seem to know

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Re: Benjamin and Frances James
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 19 May 11 16:23 BST (UK) »
Orielpenfro - your kindness overwhelms me. I am certainly planning a trip over from Holland to Pembrokeshire sometime to visit graveyards, but summer 2012 looks more likely than this year. Please don't go out of your way, but any picture you could take in passing would of course be extremely welcome.

I am aware of the Frances/Francis distinction (my mother's middle name was Frances presumably after Frances James above) - however the census records are inconsistent. Although the FreeBMD birth entry is clearly for Frances Hendy, both the entries for the 4 year old female nursechild in 1851 and the 14 year old male in 1861 are Francis; the 24 year old in 1871 looks like it is probably Frances.

Best regards and many thanks

Brian

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Re: Benjamin and Frances James
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 19 May 11 16:42 BST (UK) »
Omega

Just a short post to thank you for your welcome and help. Now I look more carefully it is of course Gilead, not St Gilead.

Best regards

Brian
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Re: Benjamin and Frances James
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 19 May 11 18:26 BST (UK) »
any picture you could take in passing

Who am I looking for in the Burial Ground and what dates do you have for burial?

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Re: Benjamin and Frances James
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 19 May 11 18:30 BST (UK) »
Frances James, died 24 October 1901 - but please only if it is very easy - please do not spend ages looking

Many thanks

Brian
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Re: Benjamin and Frances James
« Reply #16 on: Friday 20 May 11 14:26 BST (UK) »
Jpegs from Gilead Burial Ground sent to the email address supplied. Can you confirm receipt please.
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Re: Benjamin and Frances James
« Reply #17 on: Friday 20 May 11 14:43 BST (UK) »
Wonderful pictures received. Thank you so much

Best Regards

Brian

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Turley - Lancashire