Watkins of Brecon

[Researcherjoe]

Hi, I am looking for help/advice on how to discover where my great great grandmother, Sarah Watkins, was born. She married John Dawson sometime between 1847 and 1851. Sarah is last mentioned in the 1901 census at Leamington: Sarah Dawson Widow, age 72. Born Wales, Brecon.

Any help would gratefully received.

Joe Leach
Rotherham South Yorkshire

[wozzle]

not exactly what you were after but;
on the 1851 census they are in sheffield but their first child was born in leamington
think this must be the marriage
name; sarah watkins
y.o.r. 1846
qtr; apr/may/jun
dist; warwick(this is the reg dist for leamington)
vol;16
page;643
on the same page; john dawson

[Researcherjoe]

Hi Wozzle,

Many thanks for the marriage information re Sarah Watkins and John Dawson, The June quarter for their marriage ties in with the other information I have.

Thanks again.
Joe

[osprey]

do you have a copy of the marriage certificate to give father's name & occupation which would help to identify a baptism?

[Researcherjoe]

Hello Osprey,

Many thanks for your comment. Sara Watkins married John Dawson at Leamington June 29th, 1846. her father's name was Walter Watkins occupation Painter. Sarah's age on the marriage certificate is given as a minor, her age in the 1901 census was 72 so I estimate her birth was in 1829.

Once again many thanks for your help.
Joe

[osprey]

is this the family in 1841 ?

Punter St, Leamington Priors HO107/1135/11 folio 35 pg 46
Walter Watkin 50 plumber
Martha 50
Walter 20 painter
Sarah 12
James 9
all not born in county


can't see them in 1851 as yet & can't see baptisms for the children either.

 

[osprey]

possible older brother Walter is still in the area in 1861.

Likely marriage
Walter Watkins sept qtr 1855 Coventry vol 6d pg 413 with Emma Norton on the same page

possible death for father
Walter Watkins dec qtr 1842 Warwick vol 16 pg 367

[Researcherjoe]

I suspect Punter St could be an error in transcription as Sarah's address at her marriage is Pointers St, Leamington Priors? A Walter age 20 moved to Sheffield with the family. Sarah's age in 1841 (12) confirms her birth as 1829 as does the 1901 census. By the time of the 1851 census Sarah is married and at Sheffield. Could it be that Walter Watkins age 50 should read printer and not plumber?

Everything points to them being the right family except for the Punter St/Pointer St and Plumber/Painter. The death of Walter Watkins in 1842 would explain the difficulty of finding the family in the 1851 census, but Sarah's father is not listed as deceased on her marriage certificate in 1846! this is what makes family history so much fun/frustrating.

Many thanks for all you help, it really is appreciated. I'll keep you informed.

Joe

[osprey]

That was my transcription, and it looks more like Punter as the enumerator didn't dot his i, but he didn't cross his t either. I've checked the description of the enumeration district and it looks more like Pointer there. The occupation of Walter senior is definitely plumber. 

There's no reason for him to be recorded as deceased on Sarah's marriage cert. The question didn't have to be asked or the answer recorded.

1851 Moseley St, Deritend & Bordesley HO107/2060 folio 400 pg 13
Edward Gallimore head mar 33 grinder b. Cheshire, Nantwich
Margaret wife 23 b. Wales, Breckon
Wm Edwin son 4 b. Leamington
Joseph son 5 months b. Birmingham
Walter Watkins visitor 25 painter b. Wales, Breckon
William Tart visitor18 fitter b. Shropshire, Ironbridge

marriage reg
Edwin Gallimore sept qtr 1846 Warwick vol 16 pg 617 with Margaret Watkins on the same page

1861 9 Augusta Place,  Leamington RG9/2221 folio 82 pg 15
Walter Watkins head mar 39 painter grainer b. Wales, Brecon
Emma wife 33 b. Stratford on Avon