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census 1841 lookup for a John Threadwell
« on: Sunday 19 June 11 16:10 BST (UK) »
Please could someone lookup the 1841 census for a John Threadwell b.1823 in Shoreditch, Middx. I know his father was a James Threadwell (born in the Sudan) and his mother's name was Maria(not known where born). Thank you in advance for any help given.

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Re: census 1841 lookup for a John Threadwell
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 19 June 11 16:46 BST (UK) »
The only one that seems to fit in 1841 is this one  :-\

John Treadwell
Birth:    abt 1821 - Middlesex, England
Residence:    Hornsey, Hornsey, Middlesex, England

Given as a Male Servant aged 20 living Church Path, Hornsey.

HO107; Piece 663 Book: 4 Civil Parish: Hornsey; County: Middlesex; Enumeration District: 3 Folio: 59 Page: 25

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Re: census 1841 lookup for a John Threadwell
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 19 June 11 16:56 BST (UK) »
is this his marriage
if it is then i doubt if the 1841 census is him(given his occupation here)
groom; john threadwell
age; full age
status; bachelor
occ; mathematical rule maker
father; james threadwell(deceased)
fathers occ; scale maker
address at time of marr; james street,
bride; jane eliza green
age; minor
status; spinster
father; william green
fathers occ; druggist
address at time of marr; goldsmith row
date of marriage; 3rd oct 1844
place of marr; st john the baptist church,hoxton,hackney
witnesses; william green and william ballard
cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
barnes,bassingbourn

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Re: census 1841 lookup for a John Threadwell
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 19 June 11 17:25 BST (UK) »
with regard to his mothers maiden name
there is a james threadwell and a maria threadwell
baptising children in st.benet gracechurch from 1813-1815
then had a child baptised in 1817 in bethnal green
this james occupation is given as scale maker
this tallies with the fathers occ given on the marriage between john threadwell/jane green

there is this marriage which could well be the parents of john
james threadwell bachelor of this parish and maria hurrell spinster of this parish were married on the 2nd april 1812 at eastcheap,city of london
witnesses; richard pain and (looks like) j.walker
cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
barnes,bassingbourn


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Re: census 1841 lookup for a John Threadwell
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 19 June 11 17:37 BST (UK) »
Thank you Patrish and Wozzle for all the information you have supplied me. I,m not sure if the 1841 census info is correct,but as there is no other alternative, I will keep it in mind, as for the info from Wozzle it looks to be the John Threadwell that I am looking for, I have noticed on the 1851 census, John gives his occupation as "boiler maker", not sure what his occupation is on the 1861 census though. I will try to digest all of this and apply to the records I have already got and get back to you.
Once again I thank you both very much.

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Re: census 1841 lookup for a John Threadwell
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 19 June 11 17:40 BST (UK) »
Hi Wozzle, agree with you that its not the one I found in 1841 :(  found his baptism St Leonards, Shoreditch, whereby it gives his fathers occupation as a Scale maker also , living  King Street.
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Re: census 1841 lookup for a John Threadwell
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 19 June 11 18:13 BST (UK) »
Thank you Patrish and Wozzle for all the information you have supplied me. I,m not sure if the 1841 census info is correct,but as there is no other alternative, I will keep it in mind, as for the info from Wozzle it looks to be the John Threadwell that I am looking for, I have noticed on the 1851 census, John gives his occupation as "boiler maker", not sure what his occupation is on the 1861 census though. I will try to digest all of this and apply to the records I have already got and get back to you.
Once again I thank you both very much.
1861 he gives occupation as rule maker and photographic artist(though the second part of this i think could be his wifes occ)
cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
barnes,bassingbourn

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Re: census 1841 lookup for a John Threadwell
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 19 June 11 18:25 BST (UK) »
Scale maker or rule maker, they are both classed as mathematical instrument makers,..... one of my own gt. grandfathers was one of those, they were nearly always connect to nautical  navigation.
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Re: census 1841 lookup for a John Threadwell
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 19 June 11 19:07 BST (UK) »
Could this be him?

HO 107/ 693/ Book 9 / Folio 5 / page 2

Hope Street, Bethnal Green

Morris Bradshaw, 30, mathematical ? maker, Y
John Threadwell, 15, App, Y

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