HILTON Family Search

[Johnno_RC]

Hi All,

I seek details of the family of John Hilton and Emma Rebecca Burton Hilton (nee Nelson), both deceased.  John served in WWI and Emma is burried in Riverstone Cemetery, Sydney.  I believe they had ten children, all of whom may also be deceased.  Any information about my Aunt Emma's family would be greatly appreciated.  -  John

[Dundee]

Hi John,

As they were married in 1913, most of their children will have been born after the 1918 limit of publicly available indexes.  If you get a transcription of either John or Emma's death certificate it should list all children by name.  Details of how to obtain a transcription
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/howToTraceYouFamTree.htm#TranscriptionAgent

If either of them died before 1954 you can also check for a death notice
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home

Some later death and funeral notices are indexed and they will do a look up for you.
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nswsdps/dpsindex.htm

Someone will come along soon and have a look up to 1918 for you.

Debra 

[cando]

Perhaps you have all this info...

Marriage
14504/1913    
HILTON John H
NELSON Emma R B
District Wagga Wagga

This certificate would give you Emma's parents' names and her place of birth.  You can purchase a transcription of the certificate from a transcription agent for about $18 and the transcript is emailed.
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/howToTraceYouFamTree.htm#TranscriptionAgent

John's WW1 digitised service record is on
http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch/index.aspx

NSW online birth regs are only available to 1910.  Some chatters have resources for births to 1918, and may help you.

Australian Electoral Roll
1930
HILTON Emma Rebecca   108 Union Street Erskineville  HD
HILTON John Henry  108 Union Street, Erskineville  Labourer

1933
HILTON Emma Rebecca  69 Wellington Street  Newtown HD
HILTON John Henry  69 Wellington Street, Newtown  Labourer

1936
HILTON Emma Rebecca  11 Trade Street, Newtown  HD
HILTON John Henry  11 Trade Street, Newtown  Labourer
HILTON Leslie Colen  11 Trade Street, Newtown  Labourer

1943
HILTON Agnes Doreen  11 Trade Street, Newtown  HD
HILTON Allan Henry  11 Trade Street, Newtown  Labourer
HILTON Alma May  11 Trade Street, Newtown  Factory hand
HILTON Emma Rebecca  11 Trade Street, Newtown  HD
HILTON John Alford  11 Trade Street, Newtown  Labourer
HILTON John Henry  11 Trade Street, Newtown  Labourer

1949
HILTON Agnes Doreen  11 Trade Street, Newtown  HD
HILTON Allan Henry  11 Trade Street, Newtown  Labourer
HILTON Alma May  11 Trade Street, Newtown  Factory hand
HILTON Cecil Roy  11 Trade Street, Newtown  Motor driver
HILTON Emma Rebecca  11 Trade Street, Newtown  HD
HILTON John Alfred  11 Trade Street, Newtown  Mendler
HILTON John Henry  11 Trade Street, Newtown  Labourer
HILTON William Thomas  11 Trade Street, Newtown  Aircraft worker

1954
HILTON Emma Rebecca  11 Trade Street, Newtown  HD
HILTON John Henry  11 Trade Street, Newtown  Labourer
HILTON Shirley Isabel  11 Trade Street, Newtown Clerk

You can search for the marriages on
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/Index/IndexingOrder.cgi/search?event=births

A number of their children served in WW2 and the service summaries give you their dates and places of birth.
http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/script/name.asp#searchtabs

This could be your John Henry's death
35127/1960    
HILTON John Henry
Father John  Mother Unknown
District Newtown

and possibly his birth
28102/1889    
HILTON John H C    
Father John  Mother Mary J
District Wagga Wagga

You can search here for death notices...quite a few of the family names here including one for an Emma in 1973...died in Southport Hospital so death not on NSW death index.
http://www.ryersonindex.org/

However all this aside, you need the marriage cert to find Emma's parents and her place of birth.

Cheers
Cando

[Jamjar]

Not quite in Sydney: Riverstone is situated between the Richmond Road running from Blacktown to Richmond, and the Windsor Road running from Windsor to North Parramatta.

Jamjar

[Johnno_RC]

Hi Dundee & Cando,

Many thanks for your information. It is much appreciated.

Cando, your information from the Australian Electoral Rolls appears to be bang-on, as I can remember visiting the Trade Street home when I was a kid no older than about 5 years old.
 
How are the Australian Electoral Roll records accessed;  are they available online?

Re my quest for details on this Hilton family I have the basic details of marriage etc as available from NSW BDM, but have not been able to contact anyone from, or knows of, the ten children or their families who might be able to provide details and confirm that what I have is correct. 

I don't know if all ten names I have are correct or if any are still living, thus I cannot name names.

I don't want to put unconfirmed info into a formal computerised family tree record, but, Cando, it looks like what you have provided gives me confirmation of the names of at least five of the children.

I am relatively new to family tree research and just joined RootsChat this last week.  Going by the quantity and quality of postings I have a lot to learn in research processes.   Again, many thanks for your assistance.
 
Regards,  John.

[cando]

This will help you further with your research....

*Transcriptions of John and Emma's marriage certificate [parents' names] and  John Henry's death certificate [children's names both living at deceased] will give you the information you need.    Details of information on certificates in NSW and how to purchase transcriptions already on the thread.   

*The death notice from the Ryerson Index for Emma HILTON. 

Have you searched the Ryerson Index for death notices for the children?  Both of the following are listed on the index and once again you can request a lookup on the Ryerson website.

You can search to 1960 on the NSW bdm for the marriages of the children as you have their names. A couple to get you started  
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/Index/IndexingOrder.cgi/search?SessionID=28382452&event=marriages
Marriages
5140/1939    
HILTON    John Alfred
HENNEBERRY Agnes Doreen
District Newtown

2855/1941    
HILTON Allan Henry
GODDARD    Marjorie
District Annandale

Information about electoral rolls in Aus

Current roll Commonwealth Roll
http://www.aec.gov.au/enrolling_to_vote/about_electoral_roll/how_to_view_electoral_roll.htm

NSW Rolls -
http://heritagegenealogy.com.au/research/electoral-rolls/

Ancestry.com has online indexed electoral rolls for NSW 1930-1954 [not all years]. If you are not a subscriber I believe you can access this subscription based website from a number of libraries.

There are lots of links to resources and offers at the top of the Australian Board both for Australia and NSW
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,399.0.html
Perhaps have a browse

See how you go and don't hesitate to ask for help  

Cheers
Cando

[Johnno_RC]

Cando,

Again many thanks for your guidance and hints. You are a real gem.  Now I have an approach that I can follow, as time permits, but I would still like to find someone with intimate knowledge of the family to give me some confidence in what I have todate and hope to find in the future.

Regards, John 

[RobinB99]

Historical Australian Electoral Roles can be searched online for free through the Australian National Library:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/

[CassT]

Found these notices for John Henry Hilton in Sydney Morning Herald 3. Nov 1960.
hope they help, do you know the date Emma Died


Cass

also check the Woronora site, looks like the son John ashes placed with his father...

http://www.woronoracemetery.org.au/name-search.html