Headstone pictures CAMBUSNETHAN CHURCHYARD WISHAW

[barbarag15]

Hello, just browsing through grave photo requests for Cambusnethan Cemetery.  I have details of two graves I would like to have photographed and was wondering if you would be kind enough to do this for me?
Cheers, Barbara, Tasmania

[Lodger]

Hi Barbara, if you send the details I will see what I can do.

Lodger

[barbarag15]

Thankyou so much Lodger.  Details under:

Cambusnethan Public Ground Day Book
Reference Book: ACC/1852/5/54
Lair: 607
Registered No.  3801
Name: Robert Robertson
Residence: Overtown
Age: 73 years
Marital Status: Widower
Names of Parents: James Robertson and Mary Gray
Date of Funeral: 20th May, 1880

Cambusnethan Public Ground Day Book
Reference Book: ACC/1852/5/82
Lair: 109
Registered No. 177
Name: Margaret Robertson
Residence: Overtown
Age: 16 years
Marital Status: Single
Names of Parents: Robert Robertson and Margaret Dunn
Date of Funeral: 13th July, 1861

No rush. Very much appreciated though.
Cheers, Barbara

[Lodger]

Hi Barbara,

I'm sorry to disappoint you but these two burials were in Common (or Public) Ground, that is, they were in paupers graves. No headstones were erected and they would have gone in with strangers, other paupers. After all this time no one is even sure where this ground is exactly.

sorry to have to de the bearer of bad news.

Lodger.

[barbarag15]

Hello Lodger
How sad and disappointing but thankyou anyway for letting me know.  It seems I am not destined to get photographs of my ancestors or their final resting places, but in this game that is not unexpected is it.
Thanks again, Barbara

[TLField]

Hi, Lodger!

Could you please reply with the inscription for YOUNG & LITTLEJOHN?  I'm new to RootsChat and can't seem to figure out how to PM.

Thank you!
Traci Field
Clarkston, Montana USA

[Lodger]

Hi Traci, I'm in Paris until Tuesday, I'll get back to you as soon as I return.

Lodger

[Lodger]

Hi Traci,

Welcome to Rootschat. Here is the picture of the Young & Littlejohn stone. The transcription was made back in 1982, before the advent of PCs and photoshop. The original transcript just reads "Erected by John Young and Isabella Littlejohn his spouse ................. rest worn."

I've played around with photoshop and come up with what I think may some of the "worn" inscription.

I think it reads something like "In memory of their daughter Janet who died (month ?) (day ?) 1831 aged ( ? ) months".

If you can link to this family let me know, I may be able to find some later burials in the cemetery records.

[TLField]

Hi, Lodger!

Thank you so much for getting back to me!

This is exactly the couple who I was hoping it would be, too bad it doesn't give me many clues.

I've been trying to find birth/death records for Gavin Young and Sarah Balfour.  I found their marriage records on Scotland's People - married in 1797, Gavin of Cambusnethan parish, Sarah of Hamilton parish.  I also found record of five children, all born in Stewart-Town, Cambusnethan parish.  They are:

(1) Martha, born 1798, listed as 1st child - I believe she married Thomas Cunningham in 1818.  I found record of two of their children, but I have not been able to find any of them in censuses or death records.
(2) James, born 1800 - married Ann Lightbody, died 1869 - have his death record that confirms he is a son on Gavin and Sarah.  I also found a wealth of information on this family in this thread about the Cambusnethan Churchyard.
(3) Susan, born 1801, listed as 3rd child - have not been able to find anything else about her.
(4) John, born 1803, listed as 4th child - have not been able to find anything else about him.  Have been looking at all John Youngs in the Wishaw Relief Church Baptismal Register, marriage records, censuses, and death records.
(5) Gavin, born 1806 - married Ann Forrest in Hamilton parish in 1830, died 1885 - have his death record that confirms he is a son of Gavin and Sarah.  I have a fair about of information about him since he is my 4x great-grandfather.

The known children all appear to use Scottish naming patterns when naming their children.  If Gavin and Sarah also used the pattern, Gavin's parents would be James Young + Susan, and Sarah's parents would be John Balfour + Martha.

Both Gavin and Sarah had died by the time of son James' death in 1869.  Both James' and Gavin's death records list their father as a shoemaker. In looking at all the Youngs still in Stewart-Town for the 1841 census, I came across a James Young, born 1761, shoemaker, living with Mary, born abt 1766, and John, born abt 1801, also a shoemaker.  Perhaps this is an older brother of the Gavin Young I am searching for?  I'm not sure if shoemaking was an occupation that was shared by many family members like weaving was.  I've not been able to find out much about on the internet.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.  My husband has promised me a trip to Scotland for our 25th wedding anniversary, but that is a year away.  Plus, even though I've warned him, I don't think he will let me sit in research rooms for a month straight. 

Thank you again!
Traci Field
Clarkston, Montana USA