Randulph Crewe of Chester, Cheshire - related to Sir Ranulph Crewe?

[Ó Maonaigh]

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[wilcoxon]

This lot are probably the `posh` Crewe family, but it`s a coincidence  that there is a Stephen among them.


Liverpool Mercury etc Friday, February 9, 1821
Married on 28th ult at Hawarden Church Stephen Crewe Esq, Son of the late Rev R Crewe Rector of that place

.http://archives.cheshire.gov.uk/default.aspx

Wills held at Chester
First Name:
 RANDULPH Surname:  CREWE
Place:  CREWE
Occupation:
 CLERK; DOCTOR OF LAW
Date:  1777
Will:
 RECTOR OF WARMINGHAM


First Name:  STEPHEN Surname:  CREWE
Place:  DUNHAM MASSEY
Occupation:  GENTLEMAN
Date:  1847


First Name:
 RANDULPH Surname:  CREWE
Place:   
Occupation:  CAPTAIN 58RGT FOOT
Date:  1857
Will:
 LAST OF CHESTER


freemen of Chester
Crewe   Reverend Randolph   Hawarden Clerk   1784   April 6   Birth

[wilcoxon]

I`m more than a bit confused now

This may be the marriage.
All names on same page.
Marriages Dec 1843   
BOLESWORTH  John    W Bromwich  18 659   
Cornwall  Frederick     West Bromwich  18 659   
Crewe  Stephen     W Bromwich  18 659   
Fisher  Emma     West Bromwich  18 659   
Glenister  Edith     W.Bromwich  18 659   
Hadley  Ann     W Bromwich  18 659     
Hingeley  Ebenezer     W Bromwich  18 659   
Rowland  Ellen     West Bromwich  18 659   

1861 RG9; Piece: 2180; Folio: 110; Page: 32
But his wife here is Mary ?
Steven Crewe 47 gun barrel filer b City of Chester( c 1814)
Mary Crewe 46 b Birmingham
Charlotte Crewe 21
Sarah Ann Crewe 14

1851 HO107; Piece: 2061; Folio: 116; Page: 1;
Ann Crew 39 marr. furniture maker b Warwick
Charlotte Crew 14 dau
Henry Crew 7 son
Sarah Ann Crew 5 dau
James Hadley 73 wifes father  gun pin??? b Warwick

[Jayson]

Hi

I have a pedigree of the Crewe family so would be more than happy to dig it out and see what I can glean from it if that would be of any help to you?

The Crewe family lived in Hospital Street (the house can still be seen today) in Nantwich in the 15th century.  A later descendant, either by marriage or business acumen, had amassed enough of a fortune to build Crewe Hall which is huge. It's now a hotel I believe. 

The Crewe Hall estate eventually passed to an heiress who married one John Offley, Esq. from the neighbouring district of Madeley in Staffordshire. The surname then became Offley-Crewe, and I think the "Offley" bit was eventually dropped.

You say that you have found Stephen's baptism? Did it give his father's occupation?

Jay


 

[Ó Maonaigh]

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[wilcoxon]

From Genuki.
Chester, St. Oswald (C of E), Queen Street. An ancient parish church, originally serving the townships of Bache, Blacon cum Crabwall (part), Churton Heath, Croughton, Great Boughton, Huntington, Iddinshall, Lea Newbold, Newton by Chester, Saighton, Upton by Chester (part), Wervin, and part of the city of Chester. Closed in 1881 and replaced as the parish church by St.Thomas of Canterbury, Parkgate Street. Registers of Baptisms 1581–1945, Marriages 1581–1969 and Burials 1581–1854 have been deposited at the Cheshire Record Office.

It may be worth you asking for a check of the register transcripts  at the Records office.  You have a date, they have been very helpful to me in the past.

Were the cencus records I found the correct ones ?

[Ó Maonaigh]

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[Jayson]

Hi

I managed to find my copy - from Ormerod's History of Cheshire - of the Crewe pedigree.

There was a "Stephen" in the pedigree; he was the second son of Revd Randulph Crewe. However, the mother was Frances, not Sarah.  Other siblings of Stephen were Charles, Randulph, Francis, Richard and a daughter, Selina. But there was also a son John who isn't noted in the pedigree. He died 30 Aug 1802 aged 14 years, and was buried in the churchyard at Barthomley on 2 Sept. His father was then described as rector of Hawarden.  There are many burials for members of the Crewe/Offley family both in the church and churchyard at Barthomley.   


Randulph's father, Stephen's grandfather, was also a clergyman.  Rather confusingly, he was named Randulph too. Stephen's uncles's were also clergymen. I guessing that this Stephen would have been born in the late 18th century. 

Perhaps "your" Stephen was the son of the above mentioned Stephen's brother, Randulph, if that makes any sence? I shall be at the RO next week so can have a look for his baptism.

Jay

[wilcoxon]

The source of the confusion with regards to the wife's name is due to the fact that her name is Mary Ann Hadley.

Surely the marriage cert will give Stephens fathers name AND occupation.
Marriages Dec 1843   
Crewe  Stephen     W Bromwich  18 659   
Hadley  Ann     W Bromwich  18 659