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Re: john barr born 10.12.1823
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 14 July 11 09:35 BST (UK) »
Looks like John's father, James was married before Isabella?

1851 census, Reference HO107, 1495, 515, 33
31 Model Buildings, St Pancras

Barr, James  Head  M  35  Brewers Assistant  b Aston, Berkshire
Barr, Rhoda  Wife  F  39  b Long Crowmarsh, Oxon

And a death:
December qtr 1851
St Pancras district    vol 1, page 244
Barr, Rhoda
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: john barr born 10.12.1823
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 14 July 11 10:01 BST (UK) »
The marriage for James & Isabella:

June 20th 1852 at St Pancras Church

James Barr, full age, widower, Brewers Assistant
Father: Thomas Barr, deceased

Isabella Linsell, full age, spinster
Father: Thomas Linsell, deceased

Both of Model Buildings
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: john barr born 10.12.1823
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 14 July 11 11:54 BST (UK) »
thankyou so much for your help some one said john went to usa ? i must have made mistake on dates for isabella sorry.thank you again

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Re: john barr born 10.12.1857
« Reply #12 on: Monday 18 July 11 07:14 BST (UK) »
can any one help please
james thomas barr  b 1855 london area and  john barr b 1856 got them in 1861 cencus can any one tell me did they marry or if theyr in any later cencus thankyou


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Re: john barr born 10.12.1823
« Reply #13 on: Monday 18 July 11 07:38 BST (UK) »
The only James Thomas I can find so far is one aged 25 in 18/04/1909 who married Florence Langmead, Islington, he was aged 25, d of b = circa 1884, his father was James

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Re: john barr born 10.12.1823
« Reply #14 on: Monday 18 July 11 07:46 BST (UK) »
There is this marriage on FreeBMD?

September qtr 1879
Guildford district    vol 2a, page 105

Barr, James Thomas
+ and on the same page +
Bone, Elizabeth
Warne, Mary Ann


Then in 1881 census, we find:
Reference RG11, Piece 1251, Folio 71, Page 59
Ivy Cottage, Farnham, Farnborough

Barr, James F  Head  M  28  Groom  b Camberwell, Surrey
Barr, Mary  Wife  F  28  b London
Barr, John S  Son  M  1  b Farnboro

The initals for both are suspect! The son looks to me like John L, while the father could well be James T?  ???

and, in fact therre is a birth in the same registration district as the census:
June qtr 1880
Hartley Whitney district    vol 2x, page 189
Barr, John Louis
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: john barr born 10.12.1823
« Reply #15 on: Monday 18 July 11 09:10 BST (UK) »
1891
RG12/568 FOLIO 24 PAGE 43
44 Abbey Road Farnham
James Thomas Barr 36 born Camberwell auxilary postman
Mary Ann 38 Cornwall
Joohn Louis 10 Farnborough
James, looks like P or T 8 Farnborogh
Grace P 4 Surrey
Sophie (later as Sophie Marlow or Morton Barr ) 5 mths Surrey

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Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: john barr born 10.12.1823
« Reply #16 on: Monday 18 July 11 19:03 BST (UK) »
thankyou anything on john barr b 1857