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Help with Birth Place name
« on: Wednesday 27 July 11 13:27 BST (UK) »



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On a previous thread Debra found me this death entry.

Harriet MUNRO
Age: 40
Father: Richard CROSS
Mother: Ann Unknown
Reg Year: 1858
Reg Number: 6695
Birth Place: DODB

Has anyone got any ideas what the birth place is or what
it might mean please?

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Re: Help with Birth Place name
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 28 July 11 00:08 BST (UK) »
Thats got me stumped Raylen - look on some acronymn  abbreviation sites - nothing @ all remotely like a place name ?????????????

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Re: Help with Birth Place name
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 28 July 11 00:16 BST (UK) »
I take it that this is a transcription of some sort? Is there any chance of seeing the original document that gives the birth place?

It looks like a mistranscription of some sort ... Dodd?  :-\

You'd really need to see the original writing to know for sure. I'd like to know it was written in all capitals or it has just been transcribed that way (as the surname has).

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Re: Help with Birth Place name
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 28 July 11 01:33 BST (UK) »
It's a bit like initials of DOD/B = Date of Death/Burial

If the original was written : "Dodb"

Could it be Doole, which is an Island in Western Australia.

or, what about Dalby in Queensland.


I've found a list of modern areas in Australia but nothing seems to fit.  Down the lefthand side of the page is a list of the states to click on and then choose a letter of the alphabet at the top of each state page to click on :

  http://www.postcodes-australia.com/areas/wa/index/d
Aberdeen: Findlay-Shirras,McCarthy: MidLothian: Mason,Telford,Darling,Cruikshanks,Bennett,Sime, Bell: Lanarks:Crum, Brown, MacKenzie,Cameron, Glen, Millar; Ross: Urray:Mackenzie:  Moray: Findlay; Marshall/Marischell: Perthshire: Brown Ferguson: Wales: McCarthy, Thomas: England: Almond, Askin, Dodson, Well(es). Harrison, Maw, McCarthy, Munford, Pye, Shearing, Smith, Smythe, Speight, Strike, Wallis/Wallace, Ward, Wells;Germany: Flamme,Ehlers, Bielstein, Germer, Mohlm, Reupke


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Re: Help with Birth Place name
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 28 July 11 02:12 BST (UK) »
Hi Raylen,
This DODB is from the Index and is a transcription of what is on the Certificate.
You would have to get the certificate to see what the Birthplace really is. There is no other DODB given as a birthplace on the Index from 1838 -1888 and I am not familiar with this being an abbreviation for anywhere in Victoria  ;)

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Re: Help with Birth Place name
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 28 July 11 02:18 BST (UK) »
I don't think it can be a Victorian name as she died in 1858 aged 40, so birth about 1818 and Victoria wasn't founded then.  I'd guess it would be somewhere overseas rather then NSW or Tasmania.  Any clues as to where the Munro's came from - Scotland?

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Re: Help with Birth Place name
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 28 July 11 02:25 BST (UK) »
Hi
Searching online trees, someone has Harriet Cross, parents Richard and Ann, born 1818 Sudbrooke England, the death record could be a mistake. They have her death as 3/8/1858 but no place given. There is a daughter born 1841, no place of birth or death for her either. I would look for her in England to see if that checks out.

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Re: Help with Birth Place name
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 28 July 11 02:33 BST (UK) »
Hi there,

If Harriet  (Harriett/Harriott etc) was born in New South Wales in c 1818 then perhaps she was baptised and if so then perhaps that baptism is indexed in the NSW BDM online index....   NSW at that time covered far more territory than the current boundaries of the state of NSW..... the Governor's commission included for example New Zealand.  

As to where is/was DODB ....  Sorry Raylen,  I do not recognise this, I have gone through several of my NSW reference books for the Penal colony, and looked at several other offline resources as well.  

My fingers are crossed that the answer is staring me in the face and that I cannot see the wood for the trees and that a RChatter will spot this thread and say "Oh  DODB .... yes well that's ............" and we all will say "Of course, 'plain as day' why didn't I think of that"

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Re: Help with Birth Place name
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 28 July 11 02:40 BST (UK) »
Hi Raylen,
The tree that mum mum refers to also has Harriett's daughter listed as ......Mary Jane CROSS married William BUNTING b 1834 d 1865.
Their daughter Mary Ann BUNTING b 4.3.1858 married James Alexander HIGGINS in 1890  and died 1933

They had a daughter :
Ailee Hannah Catherine b 1903 Brighton married George Alexander RALPH in 1926 and died in Coburg in 1967.
According to the tree there are 2 living sons and a living daughter of this marriage.

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Kiefel- Prussia- South Australia
Fiegert-Prussia- South Australia
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Keetley-Hathern Leicestershire-New Zealand
Other names: Collis, Williams,Courage, Andrew, Ransom, Gore.