John CRACKNELL & Jane GIRLING

[findem]

Hi,

I raised a query with an Essex Records Office Archivist regarding the use of Alias in some baptism PR entries, here is the reply:

"Thank you for your email.  Aliases were common at this date and usually had an innocent meaning such as the continuation of a family name, the adoption of a child or the use of a stepfather’s name."

I managed to follow up one alias concerning an ancestor and the alias referred to his mother's maiden name.

Regards.

[Keziah2]

Would agree with that theory Findem as I have recently found a case in the Rumburgh PR's.  Married as Elizabeth Taylor alias Bales, which actually turned out to be Balls.

I suggested a PR Look Up as the 2 corresponding entries quoted in the Suffolk Marriage Index are very similar John Cracknell married Jane Girling or Jane Grinling 18 Oct 1821. The SMI suggests that one of the names is an alias but which one? 

As suggested by Jodaw the 2 names are so alike but it has been transcribed onto the SMI as an alias & the PRs are the only way to get to the bottom of this one.

K

[golferzorro]

I have the following, have not verified or added Sources but expect these were from IGI many years ago


John Cracknell
  b. abt 1629, Brundish, Suffolk, England
& Elizabeth
  b. abt 1633, Brundish, Suffolk, England
|   Robert Cracknell
|     b. 1661, Martlesham,Suffolk
|     d. 13 Feb 1729, Suffolk
|   & Sarah Wellett
|     b. 1665, Martlesham,Suffolk
|     m. 23 Jun 1687, Martlesham,Suffolk
|   |   John Cracknell
|   |     b. 4 Jun 1693, Martlesham,Suffolk
|   |   & Elizabeth Girling
|   |     b. 1697, Stradbroke,Suffolk,England
|   |   |   Sarah Cracknell
|   |   |     b. 23 Mar 1732, Stradbroke Suffolk
|   |   |   & James Rose
|   |   |     b. 1735, Horham, Suffolk
|   |   |     m. 31 Aug 1755, Stradbroke,Suffolk,England
|   Thomas Cracknell
|     b. abt 1655, Brundish, Suffolk, England
|     d. Oct 1655

[findem]

Hi,

My thoughts for what they are worth  is that Girling and Grinling although fairly different phonetically, from a spelling perspective are similar.  I suspect that it's a case of a spelling error, either that or someone had a hearing problem.

My money is on Girling, I'll be watching for the jury's verdict.

Regards.

[Jodaw]

Hi Golferzorro and findem,

I already have the information about Robert Cracknell and Sarah Wellett,
but have never been able to find out details of Jane Girling/Grinling's
parents.  Bit of a mystery.
Thank you both for your thoughts and information, it is much appreciated.

Regards,

[Keziah2]

A little snippet of info from the Suffolk Burial Index - there are GIRLING burials (1582-1901) and GRINLING burials (1598-1857) at Stradbroke All Saints.  There are also GRINLING burials (1655-1874) at nearby Laxfield All Saints along with a few Girling burials.  The dates are overlapping so it is unlikey that the names were recorded incorrectly & at least two burials at Stradbroke noting an alias on the use of Grinling/Girling (Frances 15 Mar 1759 age 80 & wife Margaret 3 Aug 1753).

So it looks very much like these could be two entirely different families with just very similar names or a branch of the family that has stuck with a corrupted name.

Twins Jane & William GRINLING (parents Abraham Jnr & Jane GRINLING) were buried 15 Jun 1800 Stradbroke All Saints.  Abraham Jnr  was buried 16 Apr 1803 Stradbroke All Saints but that left enough time for the couple to have more children - a later daughter could have been named Jane also?

This really does need SKS to check the Stradbroke PRs for you as there are no online records for Stradbroke.

K

[findem]

My money is on Girling, I'll be watching for the jury's verdict.

Now you know why I don't gamble 

Regards

[Jodaw]

Hi Keziah2 & findem,

The only information I have regarding Jane Girling is that she was born 1801
in Stradbroke.  She married John Cracknell in 1821 in Norwich Norfolk.
John Cracknell was born 1783 in Stradbroke.  Jane died in 1877.
I have so far, Girling/Greinling/Grinling and counting.
Thank you both, you are a great help to me especially as I live in Australia
and have no access to the records that you do.

I am very much in your debt.

Regards

[findem]

Hi Jodaw,

I'm also living in Australia so I know what a struggle/frustration research can be at times, although for me with mainly Essex ancestors (not one Suffolk ancestor to date) the Essex Records Office putting it's PRs online was a Godsend.

Anyway, good luck. I do hope sks comes along and gives you a helping hand.

Regards.