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Re: Mary MUMBY help needed
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 18 March 15 01:37 GMT (UK) »
Hi AngelFish

I also downloaded the will Of Edward Momby/Mumby also hard to read.
I have searched knowing he was a Major in the British army.
From 1739 to 1749 he was Stationed in Ireland Dombarton I think.
He had two daughters by a Mary Anderson I'm wondering if she was Irish and the girls born in Ireland?
Also Edward was also in the Scots Magazine.
Edward died 1762 Somersby thought he may not have been born in England at all.
in the will I found two other names Robert Chapman and ? I forget the other name
What do you all think need some feed back.
I don't know if Abraham Wallett has a headstone back in Suffolk. Would be very hard for me living in Australia. 
I feel for his family I found one son died on a Voyage with the east india company he drowned and was only 17.5 years not even 18. Cannot find the other son who died later.

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« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 18 March 15 07:48 GMT (UK) »
Sorry I didn't realise you were in Australia.

Do you know when and where Abraham died please Avongirl?
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Re: Mary MUMBY help needed
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 18 March 15 08:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi AngelFish

Abraham Wallett was Vicar of Clare in Suffolk  dying in 1790
poor soul he was only 46 years old so young to die.
I guess being a vicar did not agree with him.
His sister in law Ann Momby who married another vicar did okay found their family pedigree only poor Abraham and Mary did not do so well.
Elizabeth Wallet my branch married a Thomas Garner and had many children surviving to adulthood one being my 4 times great Grandmother Mary Garner who married Henry Image.
Funnily enough Henry was distanly related the William Edmund Image they have the right to bare arms.
Yes my father left the UK for Australia in 1970 and I was born here.
AvonGirl Lisa

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« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 18 March 15 09:26 GMT (UK) »
The town of Clare has a website with a genealogy message board.  http://www.clare-uk.com/cgi-bin/clare/messageboard.pl?section=genealogy

Someone might be prepared to look in the graveyard and cemetery for headstones for Mary and Abraham, or/and have access to the parish register to see when Mary died or remarried.
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« Reply #22 on: Friday 20 March 15 18:38 GMT (UK) »
Hello Avongirl,
Major Edward Momby was a Lincolnshire lad born abt 1690 In Brocklesby to Edward Momby And Elizabeth Alcock.
This Edward 1659 - 1698 Brocklesby was the son of John Momby  (abt 1614 to John Manby 1588, John Manby 1551, William Manby and Alison) and Rebecca Harness

Re the Scots magazine, i believe twas normal in those days to post in various publications around the country.

I haven't found any clues yet for Mary Anderson. There are some Anderson families nearby. Maybe have to look for Anderson wills to see if she could be mentioned? Also have to wonder if Anderson was actually her married name...I did try to find a death for her...I could have missed it though as gave me eyestrain!

I have the marriage bonds for children Mary Momby to Rev. Abraham Wallett (my ancestor) in 1765 witnesses Eliz Knowles and (can't read) signed by George turner (his mark).
Abraham, a grazier of Sutton, was a bondsman along with George Turner, of Tydd St Giles, a farmer.

 and Ann Momby aged 22 to Rev. Burton Rayner aged 21 in 1764. Witnesses Richard Vesey (Surrogate) and Mary Vesey.

Could this Mary be related? maybe Mary Anderson??

Hope this helps, Hilary x

I also have a copy of a sermon of Abraham's in 1789 and a transcript of the church monument at his death.

No one can be recall'd by tears
Underneath this monument are deposited
the remains of Harriett & Ann Wallett,
Daughrs of the Revd Abram Wallett, and
Mary his wife.
Harriet died 9th July 1786,
aged 12 years.
Ann died 26 May 1788
aged 18 years.
Rev'd Abram Wallett,
Vicar of Clare
died 1st Decr 1790,
aged 46 years.


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Snippets from the Ipswich Journal archives
 
15th June 1782
To be SOLD by AUCTION in separate lots at the Queen's Head Inn in Stowmarket
A freehold mesuage, consisting of a hall, three Parlours, Kitchen, back Kitchen, six Chambers, and three Garretts, a Hot house, Coach-house, Stable, Wood-house and other Offices, in good Repair, belonging to the same, with three yards and a large Garden well fruited adjoining, agreeably situated in Stowmarket aforesaid, and lately in the occupation of Rev. Mr. Wallett.
                                   -------------------------------
November 8th 1783
Advice was received on Wednesday se'nnight of the death of Mr Abraham Wallet, son of the Rev Abraham Wallet of Stowmarket, in this county, a midshipman on board The Queen an East India-man at sea: he died in August 1872, aged 17 years and a half. His parents are inconsolable for the loss of him, and all his aquaintance regret his fate as a most promising and deserving youth. This is the second son Mr Wallet has lost on board the same ship; the youngest died in April 1782.
                                   -----------
December 7th 1790
On Wednesday last there died at Clare the Rev Abraham Wallett, vicar of Clare which presentment is worth 120L per annum, the gift is in the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster
                                   ----------------------------
 Newspaper reports state he left a widow and 5 children.
Other newspaper reports say he hadn't left his family provided for and contributions were taken to pay for his funeral expenses and to go towards his family.
                                   -----------------------------
 
Society of Stewards and Subscribers for Maintaining and Educating
POOR ORPHANS of CLERYGMEN
Till the age to be put APPRENTICE
Children elected to the 24th Febraury 1791
Girls 169; of whom 129 have been put out to apprentice,
or provided for by their friends, and the
following 40 remain at the SOCIETY'S School,
no 40  ELIZABETH WALLETT, one of the six children of the
Rev. Abraham Wallett, late vicar of Clare, in the county of Suffolk
elected - feb 24th 1791 aged 8 years
 ...............................................
Appoint ment Evidence records
Evidence
 
 1774 Ordi(ordination)  Wallett, Abraham /  deacon
 1774 Appt(Licensing) Wallett, Abraham Bollingbrook ,Curate
 1776 Ordi(ordination) Wallett, Abraham /  priest
 1776 Ordi(letters dimissory) Wallett, Abraham /  priest
 Somersby alias Somerby,  Rector
 1784 Vac(resignation) Wallett, Abraham
Somerby, Rector
 1784 Vac(resignation) Wallett, Abraham
Bag/Enderby, Rector
 1785 Appt(Institution) Wallett, Abraham
Clare, Vicar
 1791 Vac(Death) Wallett, Abraham
Clare, Vicar

Hi AngelFish

I also downloaded the will Of Edward Momby/Mumby also hard to read.
I have searched knowing he was a Major in the British army.
From 1739 to 1749 he was Stationed in Ireland Dombarton I think.
He had two daughters by a Mary Anderson I'm wondering if she was Irish and the girls born in Ireland?
Also Edward was also in the Scots Magazine.
Edward died 1762 Somersby thought he may not have been born in England at all.
in the will I found two other names Robert Chapman and ? I forget the other name
What do you all think need some feed back.
I don't know if Abraham Wallett has a headstone back in Suffolk. Would be very hard for me living in Australia. 
I feel for his family I found one son died on a Voyage with the east india company he drowned and was only 17.5 years not even 18. Cannot find the other son who died later.

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Re: Mary MUMBY help needed
« Reply #23 on: Friday 20 March 15 22:26 GMT (UK) »
Wow.  I love this forum.
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« Reply #24 on: Saturday 21 March 15 00:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi HS

Thank you so much for all the information about Edward Momby.
Do you have his will?
I am going to upload here if I can and maybe people can help read his will I understand some words but other words are hard to read
Will try and find info on Mary Anderson I know they didn't marry and I wonder why?
Oh a soldiers life
and thank you AngelFish I'll upload but first find which will he is
AvonGirl Lisa

Which child from Abraham  and Mary do you descend from?
Elizabeth Wallett is my branch

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« Reply #25 on: Monday 23 March 15 00:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi All
Just had a look which will is Edward Momby's one in my files.
I am going to upload now and if anyone can help decipher the words of the will.
Also if you are a Edward Momby Descendant take a look
I think this is the one?
Tell me if not because they were all together
Wills I have are James Wallett, George Thacker too

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« Reply #26 on: Monday 23 March 15 00:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi All
Just had a look which will is Edward Momby's one in my files.
I am going to upload now and if anyone can help decipher the words of the will.
Also if you are a Edward Momby Descendant take a look
I think this is the one?
Tell me if not because they were all together
Wills I have are James Wallett, George Thacker too

Write down what you think it says, then if you google short phrases at a time it gives you examples of the phrase used in other Wills - very handy for the words you've never come across before.  :)
So far I have... I am not an expert at this, and happy to be corrected where wrong! I have used some modern spellings, not the same as in the Will.
Oh... and they didn't like punctuation!

George Thacker

In the Name of God Amen

I George Thacker of Gedney in the County of Lincoln
Gentleman being of sound and disposing mind and memory
for which I thank God / do make and ordain this my last Will
and Testament in manor following All my Goods, Cattles
Chattels, ready money, Securities for money and all my
Personal Estate whatsoever and wheresoever I give and
Bequeath unto my Daughter the Wife of James Wallett of
Sutton in the said County of Lincoln Gentleman and do hereby
Constitute and appoint my said Daughter Sole Executrix of
this my last Will and Testament hereby revoking all
former Wills by me at anytime heretofore made. [???]
where of I have hereunto set my hand and deal the Second
day of May in the year of our Lord one thousand seven

hundred and fifty three - Geo Thacker - Signed Sealed
published and proved by the said Testator George Thacker
to be his last Will and Testament in the presence of us
Abra: Wallett - John Richard.

[Abra: maybe short for Abraham?]

This Will was proved at London the Twenty
ninth day of April in the year of our Lord one thousand
seven hundred and fifty four before the Right honourable
Sir George [??] Knight Doctor of Laws Master Keeper or
Commissary of the Prerogative Court of Canterbury lawfully
Constituted by the Oath of Ann Wallett / Wife of James
Wallett / the Daughter of the Deceased and Sole Executrix
named in the said Will to whom Administration was granted
of all and singular the Goods Chattels and Credits of the
deceased being first sworn by [Confession??] duty to Administer.
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