Author Topic: TURNER, John (Browning)  (Read 14329 times)

Offline jennamar

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 5
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: TURNER, John (Browning)
« Reply #27 on: Monday 20 November 17 09:38 GMT (UK) »
Thankyou so much, Catpow and meljade for the replies and offers of assistance. I'm feeling quite heartened again, after the disappointment that Charles may not have been a part of this family at all. Its always nice to feel we belong somewhere. I might gather together what I already know about Charles and then bounce some questions off you two, if that's okay. Thanks again for answering me and offering to help. Much appreciated. And here I was, thinking nothing would come from joining this site!  Cheers, Jeanette

RootsChat is the busiest, largest free family history forum site in the country. It is completely free to use. Register now.
Also register instantly with Facebook or Twitter (and other social networks). Start your genealogy search now.


Offline Catpow

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 6
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: TURNER, John (Browning)
« Reply #28 on: Monday 20 November 17 14:51 GMT (UK) »
Jeanette, I'm sure it would be of interest, particularly if you know anything about Charles' early life.  Incidentally, I'm also probably related to you in a couple of other ways :).  Henry James Browning Turner (a name on his gravestone, although he never used anything but plain Henry all his life, including his will), is my GGgrandfather through his eldest son Richard on my father's side.  But on my mother's side I am descended from Polkinghornes from Cornwall like Charles' wife.  Also, Henry's second wife Elizabeth Edwards, my (and MelJade's ancestor) was also from the same area of Cornwall, and her mother was an Ann Hicks, also from the Redruth area of Cornwall as was Charles' wife's mother Mary Hicks.  All a bit coincidental :D.

RootsChat is the busiest, largest free family history forum site in the country. It is completely free to use. Register now.
Also register instantly with Facebook or Twitter (and other social networks). Start your genealogy search now.


Offline jennamar

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 5
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: TURNER, John (Browning)
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 21 November 17 10:06 GMT (UK) »
Wow! Catpow, this is getting exciting, at least for me.  :D I was seriously thinking of giving up on the Turner line but now my interest is piqued. And how crazy that we may have another connection. The world just got smaller, rather than larger. Poor Mary Polkinghorne (nee Hicks) didn't last long in Adelaide. So sad for a family that travelled so far for a new life. And she happened to pass before official records were kept for West Terrace Cemetery but she wasn't quite one of the first in to Adelaide and may have had her passing noted. But I'm sure she's proud of everyone's endeavours to track her.
I live in Gippsland, Victoria. But to the West, rather than the East at Bruthen, where Charles ended up. By chance, a fellow member of my local Genealogical group was asking question of a speaker a few months ago and I was amazed that he was asking questions about my Francis Polkinghorne (father of Elizabeth, who became Turner). Small world again. This chappy does his research without the internet. (Yeah, I don't know how.) He's a generation ahead of me and has more 'family knowledge'. I'm sure he'll be thrilled I've mad a contact when I tell him Thursday night. Thanks again for answering me, Candy. You've made my day. Cheers, Jeanette

Offline Catpow

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 6
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: TURNER, John (Browning)
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 21 November 17 10:25 GMT (UK) »
Jeanette,  I'll look for more concrete proof i.e. the exact link point for the Polkinghornes and Hicks.  I've never done a DNA test (and I don't really know how they work) but I think it would go into meltdown if you and I did a match 8).

Do you have a family tree on Ancestry?

Candy 

Offline jennamar

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 5
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: TURNER, John (Browning)
« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 21 November 17 11:13 GMT (UK) »
Ha ha, Candy, no Ancestry tree unfortunately. I started looking at family history about 25 years ago but life got too busy and I didn't get very far. Just started again a year ago and learning heaps with all this stuff on the internet. I just downloaded the Legacy program a few weeks ago so have been madly adding my people. (Actually, oops, are you allowed to say that on here?) But I've been pretty much a bdm and a few letters from oldies kind of family historian. Trove helps to fill in the gaps.... too much sometimes. I will get a tree together and rope in one of my kids to help me send it to you. Yes, I'm that bad.
I was just ploughing through the Cornwall OPC database to find more Hicks. Don't ask me what opc stands for but I was having fun. Cheers, Jeanette

Offline GlennPatrickM1

  • RootsChat Pioneer
  • *
  • Posts: 1
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: TURNER, John (Browning)
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 13 March 18 01:26 GMT (UK) »
Hello to all on this thread.  I know this thread is old, but I hope someone will respond back.  Facts:  Richard Turner and Jane Staker of Yapton-Ford, Sussex were married at Ford Sussex 11 May 1784.  They had three children:
Mary Turner baptized 05 May 1785 at Yapton, Sx
Edward Turner baptized 11 September 1786 at Washington, Sx
Zaccheus Turner baptized 18 May 1789 at Washington, Sx

Jane Staker was baptized 05 Mar 1748 at Yapton, Sussex, the 5th of 9 children born to Zaccheus Staker and Mary Browning; and, a granddaughter of John Staker & Jane Bridger of Yapton, Sx, and Henry Browning and Ann Silverlock of Bosham, Sx

Mary Turner married to Edward Michell of Rudgwick, son of Edward Michell and Elizabeth Burgess, and they had 12 children.  I descend from their eldest, Edward Michell who married to Mary Hampton.  Years of careful research spanning four generations of my family members has amounted to a collection of data to include the entire clan up to date, with exception of some events since about the year 2000.  Our clan is huge.  Edward and Mary lived at Kithurst Farm in Storrington circa 1807-1817 and then in the village of Steyning for the remainder of their lives.

Zaccheus Turner married his first cousin, Ann Staker, dau of Benjamin Staker and Sarah Holman.  They had 8 children of which only two married and had families.  This clan is easy to track through the censuses and BMD's, etc.  Zaccheus and Ann lived at Frobury Farm in Kingsclere, Hampshire circa 1812-1820, then at Rowlands Castle, Charlton, Hampshire, circa 1823, then at Storrington, Sx, circa 1824-1829, and then at Chichester for a short period of time in the 1830's and back at Yapton by the 1841 census.

Edward Turner has been a mystery to me, however the information gathered by descendants of Edward Turner & Elizabeth Wilkins, most who emigrated from England to Australia in 1838-39 suggest Edward was a son of Richard and Jane.

Some summaries suggest he was son of Richard Turner and Jane Robinson.  That is not true, as there is no doubt that their son Edward Turner, born in the 1790's stayed in Sussex, England and was a C of E minister.  Both PCC wills of this Richard Turner and Jane Turner, and various baptism records identify this family.  If, they are related to the Edward Turner who moved to Australia, it would be at least as second cousins.

I have been focusing research on Chichester, including Somerstown, Fishburne, Newtown, etc. to try and figure out the Turner clan.

Also in Yapton, property lease deeds name Richard Turner and James Turner together a number of times.  I have been tracking the James Turner family, all who I have accounted for except for two sons, James Turner Jr. born circa 1797 and John Turner Jr. born circa 1808 whom I cannot find, except they were named on Yapton rectory Lease deeds until about 1840.  If they are in the 1841 Census, I cannot identify them.  There do not appear to be in 1851.  Either they died or left England.  My goal has been to connect them somehow to your group in Australia, but nothing stands out, except for a "James Turner Jr." who went to South Australia about same time as your group.

Richard Turner of Yapton, and later Chanctonbury, Washington, Sussex, and lastly of Chichester, Sx, was buried 04 July 1825 at Yapton, age noted as 76, suggesting a birth year of 1747/48/49.  I have not conclusively identified who this Richard Turner was the son of.  There is one baptized in Chichester in 1748, son of John and Ann Turner.

If anyone is interested, I have put together a Turner WORD file I am happy to share.

From all of the information currently circulated about your Turner family in South Australia, did son Edward Jr. marry Ellen Sweeny?  and Daughter Jane--what happened to her.  I have feeling there is confusion about death of Jane Barnard who married Henry James Browning Turner and we know died in 1839 being noted as the death of Jane Turner dau of Edward.  I wonder if the burial record where is says informant Edward Turner (F) would mean father-in-law?  Both Janes were about the same age.  What happened to Jane Turner, dau of Edward?

Thank-you, Glenn in Canada.