John William Barnes

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Albert C Alder arriving from Quebec 1952 & 1955
Lily E Barnes aged 42 (born 1909) arrived from Quebec 1951

Both travel on the Cunard line ships.

Jennifer

Which website did you find this information? I searched but could not find anything.

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An update, I forgot to previously mention that John William Barnes (William John Barnes) was born at 28 Marloes Road, Kensington.

Would there be any records for 28 Marloes Road? It appears to have been Kensington Infirmary and Workhouse. I have not found anything else online. Would there be any baptism records which may list his father?

Attached is the birth certificate: http://en.geneanet.org/archives/actes/actesenligne/1014180

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I searched on Ancestry.co.uk and found two entries for John William Barnes (Both with the same date of death). I already had the one for April 1926 and I ordered the one I found for October 1926.

It arrived today and it lists mother as Lily Barnes of late Saunders (Formerly Smith). It lists the father as John William Barnes who is a Builders labourer.

I found the following marriages:

Marriages Mar 1926   (>99%)
Barnes    John W    Saunders    Lambeth    1d   392
Saunders  Lily    Barnes    Lambeth    1d   392

Marriages Jun 1917   (>99%)
Smith    Lily    Saunders    Southwark    1d   49
Saunders    Frederick    Smith    Southwark    1d   49

Is it likely that I may of found the correct people? What are the chances of having the same name of the child and mother and only being a mile away? Is it possible they registered the birth again after they were married?

[..claire..]

Marriage details for 1917 marriage

Walworth All Saints , Parish All Hallows Southwark  8 April 1917 after Banns

Frederick Saunders 33 bachelor  Linoleum Maker,   9 Winchester Cottages.  Father:William John Saunders~labourer Deceased.
Lily Smith 23 spinster, 9 Winchester Cottages. Father: William Smith~Grocers manager

Both signed register
Witnesses: Ivy Elizabeth Holt and William?  ?

claire

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Thank you for your reply. I have already ordered both marriage certificates.

Do you think I have the correct parents for John William Barnes?

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I believe I have found Lily Smith on the 1911 Census. William Smith is head of the household and he is a Grocers Assistant. She also has a sister called Ivy, which may be the witness on the marriage.

[jennifer c]

An Ivy E Smith married a Thomas Holt 1914 Southwark.

Jennifer

[jennifer c]

Lily Smith and William Francis Rowland were the witnesses.

Jennifer

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Marriages Mar 1913   (>99%)
Rowland    William F    Smith    Southwark    1d   119
Smith    Florence E E    Rowland    Southwark    1d   119

William Francis Rowland appears to be her brother in law.

This helps toward confirming that I have the correct census information as Florence and Ivy are both siblings.