Stafford family of Barrowby Brick wall Completed

[Bunnygirl]

Hi
I'm doing  some research on a William Stafford and have come to a brick wall, and I'm wondering if any could take a look and have any ideas?
William Ernest Stafford born 26 Dec 1900 (have birth cert) mother Fanny Stafford nee Glover father William Stafford (deceased). Barrowby,  registered 8th Feb 1901
William Stafford died 12th January 1901 from Typhoid  from Barrowby informant John Glover brother in law. I have death cert. William aged 31yrs (so this all ties in)
I have a birth cert for  what I thought was William
Sept 1871 Little Gonerby father Robert Stafford mother Rebecca Stafford nee Poucher.
I have marriage cert for William Stafford to Fanny Glover 1893
Barrowby 21st Nov 1893 William Stafford aged 24yrs of Barrowby father WILLIAM STAFFORD. Labourer.

I cant seem to locate the family in this area on the census....... I can find Robert Stafford but not William.
Any suggestions 

Thanks for taking the time to look
Bunnygirl   
 

[annie24b]

Hi,

Is his middle name Ernest by any chance?
its free to search and view 1911 census on ancestry until nov 2nd.
If you search for William, birthplace Barrowby 1901 you will find him 

annie

[annie24b]

Hi,

Is his middle name Ernest by any chance? Didn't read your post properly!
its free to search and view 1911 census on ancestry until nov 2nd.
If you search for William, birthplace Barrowby 1901 you will find him 

annie

[Nottschick]

You seem to have two William Staffords here.    
The death cert of William who died in Jan 1901 could not belong to the same William that was born in  Sept 1871 as he would have been 29 at death.
The William born to Robert and Mary in 1871 remained alive and well and can be followed though the censuses to his marriage to an Agnes.  1901 census ref  3055/6/3.  

Is it William or William Ernest that you need?  

NC.

[tup1]

Hi,

In 1901 living Church Street Barrowby RG13 3053 F126 P5

Fanny Stafford was a widow and children
Emma b1896
Olive   b 1899
William Ernest b 1901
All born Barrowby

and Annie Glover (sister)b 1884   Barkston.

In 1911 Fanny,Olive and William Ernest was living Scarrington Notts

Kathy

[Bunnygirl]

Hi
Thanks for all your replies.
I am having problems with William Stafford, his death cert states he was 31 when he died in  January 1901 and as he was married to Fanny Glover, that's why she is shown as widow on 1901 census, so that is correct.  On William's marriage certificate to Fanny it shows his father as William Stafford and I can't  find census records for a William with a father called William.  The  1881 census shows a William Stafford with parents Robert & Rebecca Stafford ... so this can't be the William I am looking for as his marriage cert states his father is William Stafford.
I do have the family on the 1911 census..... thanks 

Bunnygirl

[Geoff-E]

The  1881 census shows a William Stafford with parents Robert & Rebecca Stafford ... so this can't be the William I am looking for as his marriage cert states his father is William Stafford.

Just to recap what Nottschick said ...

The son of Robert was an Iron Moulder in 1891 ... in 1901, a William STAFFORD who was an Iron Moulder has a wife named Agnes.

The fact is, you have no clues as to the origins of your William STAFFORD, but it's interesting that he turns up in the same area as Robert STAFFORD lived.  Did Robert STAFFORD have a brother called William? Did that William have a son called William who would fit?

I see that Robert's father was a William.  Perhaps William(c1870) was the illegitmate son of one of Robert's sisters.  It is not unknown for a grandfather to be named as "father" on a marriage certificate.

[tup1]

Does the witnesses on the marriage cert give any clues??

Kathy

[smudwhisk]

What is William jnr's profession on his marriage cert please?  And does it tie in with the profession on any of his children's birth certificates.

There is a William Stafford born 1869 Exton (rather than Streeton which several ancestry trees list it as)  to William and Mary Stafford living in Greetham in 1871 and 1881.  He seems to disappear after that and the 1911 census for his parents lists 7 children 1 dead.  This William senr is a stone mason but his son William was an ag lab.  Just wondering if the professions were mixed about. 

According to the ancestry trees for the Rutland family the Exton family tie in with my Stafford line from the Great Casterton area but I've not actually come forward yet on all of them so don't know off hand if there is a death for their son in the Greetham area.  I am also not totally sure some of these trees are accurate.  Several of my Stafford line did move over the border into Lincolnshire so it's a possibility but would need more research. 

Just 'cos the marriage cert says profession is one thing, doesn't mean it's correct.  Nor is it concrete that his father's name is definately William, as Geoff-E says he could be illegitimate, but you'd need to find a birth registration for an illegitimate son and figure out where he is on the early census and under what name.  There do only appear to be the two in that immediate area but there are others who do move further afield.

Nicola