St Katherine Creechurch, City of London lookup

[k1_oz]

Hi everyone,

I am hunting baptism information on
Emily Sarah HUMPREYS who was of the parish of St Katherine Creechurch, Leadenhall St, City of London (married at full age in 1830). Her father was William Humphreys, solicitor.
and her (probable) brother
Charles HUMPHREYS (same parish). Census records put his birth date around 1805.

I have checked the parish records back to 1813, but I believe that beyond this date, they have not been transcribed.
Does anyone have access to the parish records for the period 1800-1812?

Thanks for taking the time to read.
Best regards,
Karina

[Sandymc47]

Hi Karina

Just like to mention because the parish was registered on the marriage certificate
it doesnt mean Emily Sarah was born there.
They only had to live in the Parish for 3 weeks which were the Banns
and they were OF this Parish.

Have you seen Emily on the census as well as Charles
 Do you know anythng about her like her childrens
names, her husband, Mother etc.  Or is she just a blank?

I have looked at quite alot of records for a birth around 1805 either way
but cannot find a Emily Sarah but there was a few Sarah Humphries with a
Father called William. 
One was called Sarah baptised 21st August 1803 at St Marys, West Horsley
parents William and Phillis
Another is Sarah Ann baptised 5th May 1806 at St Leonards, Shoreditch.
If she married in 1830 can I ask who she married?

regards Sandymc

[k1_oz]

Hi Sandymc,

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

Emily Sarah HUMPHREYS married Henry Morgan ROWLANDSON in 1830 at full age (so 1809 or before). They moved to India, shortly afterwards (certainly by 1835) where he was a solicitor. They had (at least) two sons: 1. Arthur Hodgson Rowlandson, (named after his brother Arthur and his brother-in-law Major-General Christopher Hodgson) and Henry Bertie Rose Rowlandson (Rose was Rowlandson's business partner). Both sons eventually emigrated to australia (during the gold rush). Henry Morgan Rowlandson died in India in 1849, and she re-married in London in 1856, listing her father as William Humphreys, solicitor. She died before the 1861 census.

She was a member of St Katherine Creechurch in 1830, as was a Charles Humphreys (born around 1805 according to census data). He was listed as a member of this parish for his 1835 marriage, and the baptisms of the resulting children.

I felt that finding a baptism for Charles (around 1805 with his parents listed) would be useful to rule him in or out as a brother. Unfortunately, I have no other starting point for her birth (location or date) at this point....

Its tricky as before 1813 the parish of St Katherine Creechurch appears NOT to be transcibed online, and of course, it would be useful to rule it in or out as an avenue to pursue.
Certainly for both her marriages, she was listed as Emily Sarah....and Emily seems to be an uncommon name at the beginning of the 1800s.

Were the occupations of the William Humpreys that you have listed specified?

All the best,
Karina

[Sandymc47]

Hi Karina
Sorry for the double post my finger must be trigger happy.

Unforuntately, no occupation was mentioned on the information which
is a shame.  Just the Mothers names which I have mentioned.
She had an interesting life if not short.  I will have a look again and
see if I can find anything else. There wasnt alot of Emilys I
know so should be easy to find if her baptism is online?

regards Sandymc

[tazzie]

  Hi


 Not sure if it is the same man but in a 1845 Post office directory I found
 William Charles C Humphreys solicitor of 67 Newgate Street
 ( late Humphreys and Gawthrop)

  Tazzie

[Valda]

Hi

On Charles' marriage in 1835 one of the witnesses was Thomas Humphreys.
On his children' baptisms Charles' occupation was auctioneer and surveyor.
On both the 1851 census, Charles aged 46 and the 1861 census aged 56 when he was living in the parish of St Katherine Cree, Charles states his birthplace was Whitechapel Middlesex.

There is a baptism in the St Mary Whitechapel registers 19th May 1805 for a Charles Humphreys son of Thomas and Elizabeth, of Red Lion Street.

For the period you are interested in the baptisms of St Katherine Cree are indexed online. There don't appear to be any Humphreys' baptisms.

Without further evidence and the fact people arrived into the London area on a daily basis, Emily Sarah may have been born in the London area or she might not.


Regards

Valda

[jennifer c]

1811 Holdens directory

Charles Humphreys Solicitor - 4 Barnards Inn

Humphreys & Dunster Solicitors - London Bridge Foot Borough

Thomas Humphreys Auctioneer & Appraiser 10 Red Lion Street Goodmans Fields

Jennifer

[k1_oz]

Thanks to everyone for taking the time to reply and sharing your resources.

It looks like perhaps Charles Humphreys, auctioneer might not be Emily Sarah's brother, as her father was definately William Humphreys, solicitor, and the baptism record for Charles (father Thomas) certainly fits nicely. Although I've tracked his sons and they are Charles, Henry and William, so perhaps I'll look a little more for a Whitechapel Charles Humphreys with father Henry or William....

Valda, could you tell me where to find St Katherine Cree's baptism records for 1800-1812; I've only found from 1813 onwards?

Jennifer, are there any William Humphreys, solicitor listings in the St Katherine Cree area for 1830?

Thanks again for taking the time.
All the best,
Karina

[Valda]

Hi

They are indexed online sometimes as St Katherine Creechurch and sometimes just as St Katherine Cree.

http://landing.ancestry.co.uk/lma/default.aspx


Prerogative Court of Canterbury will proved 27th April 1852
Thomas Humphreys auctioneer and appraiser Saint George Middlesex

1851 census HO107 1548 folio 423
No1 Back Road St George in the East Middlesex
Thomas Humphery 80 Head Married Retired Auctioneer St Luke's Blind
Elizabeth Humphery 76 Wife Married Aldersgate London
Plus 1 servant

Charles died in 1870.


Regards

Valda