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Farm near Battle
« on: Monday 05 November 12 09:01 GMT (UK) »
on the 1851 census my gr gr grandfather Trayton Christmas ( sometimes without the t) was a farmer of 105 acres on a farm called Canuhide  I think that is the correct spelling. I cannot find this anywhere on old maps and was wondering if anyone else tracing the Christmases knows or has heard of it.  In 1841 he farmed Great Beech Farm in battle. Which today is marked as old barns.

Their children, if they are anyones elses family were Orpha, Benjamin, Richard, Mary, Tilden (mine), Charles, Elizabeth and Thomas.
Trayton was born in Wartling village.

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Re: Farm near Battle
« Reply #1 on: Monday 05 November 12 09:59 GMT (UK) »
The next household is Fox Hole Farm.

Which still exists! At Kane Hythe Road, TN33 9QU
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Farm near Battle
« Reply #2 on: Monday 05 November 12 10:03 GMT (UK) »
I see KGarrad has already solved your puzzle.  ;D
Kane Hythe sounds spookily like Canuhide doesn't it?  ;D

I was going to ask if you have Trayton in any other census and if he is living at the same address (to check spellings and location).

PS. Fabulous name - Trayton Christmas.

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Re: Farm near Battle
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 18 November 12 18:29 GMT (UK) »
on the 1851 census my gr gr grandfather Trayton Christmas ( sometimes without the t) was a farmer of 105 acres on a farm called Canuhide  I think that is the correct spelling.

Canuhide (Kanuhide) on old maps 1910, and was at map ref TQ71745 16672 on the B2096 road and opposite the Reeves Wood.
Dover/Moore/Gostling/Long/Lloyd/Crabb in Epping Essex and in Middlesex


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Re: Farm near Battle
« Reply #4 on: Monday 19 November 12 11:00 GMT (UK) »
Thanks everyone. Trayton was only at that farm on that census. The  1841 he had a farm called Great Beech (Birch)  at Battle. He died in 1851.

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Re: Farm near Battle
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 11 April 17 06:28 BST (UK) »
My husband is also related to your Trayton Chrismas via his daughter Mary Chrismas (1840 - 1909) who married William Cramp (1842 - 1894) in 1863.

I would be very interested in sharing information if you would like.

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Re: Farm near Battle
« Reply #6 on: Monday 17 April 17 15:22 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Yes I would like to exchange information.
My biggest mystery and great big brick wall was the information that Trayton was the child of James Chrismas and Elizabeth. James is already married to Sarah and has a son and has other children after Trayton but I simply cannot find out who Elizabeth is. The verger of Wartling church has sent me all the births and said it is definitely in the records as Elizabeth. Have you solved this one? I did visit the Keep records office and still found the same but no Elizabeth.

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Re: Farm near Battle
« Reply #7 on: Monday 17 April 17 22:10 BST (UK) »
On ancestry.com, there is only one tree that has Elizabeth listed as Trayton's mother. All others cite Sarah.
Familysearch.org also has Elizabeth listed as his mother at the time of his Christening, but no marriage.
Have you sighted the marriage records of Trayton and Mary Ann? Does it contain his mother's name? I have been unable to get a copy of the marriage certificate as central records apparently only commenced in 1837, after their marriage. I live in Australia, so am unable to access the actual records. I have to rely on the internet.
Could Trayton have been born "on the side" (i.e. illegitimate) whilst his father was married to Sarah? It is the only explanation I can come up with.
Which branch of the family is yours?

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Re: Farm near Battle
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 18 April 17 08:26 BST (UK) »
I have so much information do you know how we can exchange email addresses rather than putting them on this site?