Dalgarno of Aberdeen

[francestogneri]

Hi Monica
I found the information on Elizabeth but not the info for Thomas.  Thanks.

I am preparing a list of the questions I can't answer and planning a trip to Edinburgh in early December.  I will add viewing the original census material to my list. I think I will need to take a sleeping bag!!!

Not come across freecen before.  Interesting that a neighbour of the Ruddiman family is Kitson, a name appearing as a middle name in the Ruddiman/McGregor family!

It has been really great having so much assistance and interest in my family search.  Much appreciated.  Yes - twins run the the family.  My grandmother was a twin but her brother died young.  Not got round to tracing his death yet.

[MonicaL]

Lucky you to be going into Edinburgh...with your sleeping bag  Get organised and have lots of blank forms to be able to fill in.

I would also take a written up tree/forms of what you have seen in the Mennie/Wood trees for the Ruddiman side of the family...as I  have said  I do think this is where you are pointing now with the Ruddiman side.

Monica 

[flst]

Jean Dalgarno, sometimes shown as Jane:
b.    31 May 1799 (I don't have the media for that)
m.   as above, d 7 Sep 1865.
d.   17 Dec 1865

Sorry to be a pest,but you said her date of death was 7 Sep 1865 (which is why I queried 17 Dec 1865)!
flst

[francestogneri]

Fist - Sorry - don't know why I have put that date in again.  I checked my posting and had both!  The correct year is as for William on my previous post  - 1828.

Monica - yes, I already have some prints from the part of the tree giving me such problems - also a list of checks.  It's getting even longer!  By the way, I noticed the problem death certificate is available on the Mennie tree.  Despite the obvious name issue they have ignored that the father is given as Joseph.  I wonder why?

The mother of William according to the document, Elspet Freeman (baptism 22 June 1783), is about a generation apart from Esther Freeman who was probably born abt 1754.  I need to find the original marriage entries.

Frances

[francestogneri]

Problem solved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I found the Baptism record for 28 February 1801 showing John Ruddiman as the father of William Ruddiman.

This shows that the father given by the son-in-law on William's death certtificate is incorrect.  It also throws doubt on the mother's name.

Thank you both for having the patience to work through this confusing information with me.  I can now be confident that I am going forward with true data.

Frances

[MonicaL]

That is great Frances  Knew you would get there!

You now have record of a William Freeman Ruddiman born to a John Ruddiman, a wright by occupation, and mother Esther Freeman.

You also have mention of a William Freeman Ruddiman being admitted to the Trades Burgess Register in 1823, father John (also elder brother John) also a wright.

His marriage to Jane, showing him as William Freeman Ruddiman, as does his 1860 death cert (boo to son in law for registering wrong names for parents, but happens...).

I think the outstanding piece for William is where was he in 1851?

Monica

[francestogneri]

True!  Odd that he has not turned up on any census check.  I think he was in the pub!

Frances

[flst]

I knew there was a problem with the information.  I have just checked William's death cert again and William Ruddiman's father is definitely JOSEPH Ruddiman and not JOHN Ruddiman.  shame - it was all coming together there!

Just a thought... I saw the death certificate on ancestry and at the bottom righthand side there's a note referring to a correction (volume 1,page8, Feb 3 1860). Have you viewed the register of corrected entries?
flst

[francestogneri]

Fist
No - I was short of credits at that point.  My previous experience was that these usually give an update to the medical condition.  William died from a (supposed) Heart Condition so I assumed the corrected entry would confirm this.  I will add this to my list of things to check!

Frances