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Julia Holland
« on: Saturday 24 November 12 19:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

I am searching for ancestors of Julia Holland.  She was born around 1813/1816/1818. The location of birth varies between Holborn or London on the censuses.

She married 1837-10-02 Eton, Buckinghamshire to James Robert Bowler (Born 1816-01-21 Colnbrook, Buckinghamshire). On the marriage certificate it does not list her fathers name.

I have searched for baptisms and bastardy bonds but cannot find anything.

Kind regards,

Curtis


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Re: Julia Holland
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 25 November 12 10:23 GMT (UK) »
Do any of the witnesses give any clues, what about her mother's name?

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Re: Julia Holland
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 25 November 12 10:43 GMT (UK) »
I do not have her mothers name.

The witnesses appear to say William and Elizabeth Goodman.

Attached is a copy of the certificate: http://en.geneanet.org/archives/actes/actesenligne/1014212

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Re: Julia Holland
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 28 August 13 18:21 BST (UK) »
I have found this, could it be the same Julia Holland?

Name:    Julia Holland
Age:    29
Estimated Birth Year:    abt 1816
Date of Trial:    6 May 1845
Trial Year:    1845
Location of Trial:    Middlesex, England
Sentence:    Imprisonment

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Re: Julia Holland
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 29 August 13 09:12 BST (UK) »
If yours married in 1837, then she would be Julia Bowler by the time of this trial.

But if the 1837marriage in Buckinghamshire is a different person , then this could well be the Julia bn 1819.

Or I guess she could have reverted to her maiden nam for some reason.

We just dont know if it is the same person with no more information.

Have you found your Julia (Bowler) in 1841 and 1851? If she is married with a family in Buckinghamshire, then she is unlikely to be back in London committing crimes under her maiden name at the same time.
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Julia Holland
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 29 August 13 10:18 BST (UK) »
If yours married in 1837, then she would be Julia Bowler by the time of this trial.

Sorry I got confused. It can't be the same one who married James Robert Bowler.

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Re: Julia Holland
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 29 August 13 15:21 BST (UK) »
Julia married in Horton. William and Elizabeth Goodman, who appear to be a married couple on the census there in 1841, may be the William Goodman and Elizabeth Aldridge who married in nearby Dachet in 1836.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N2TC-2JS

So probably friends of the bride and groom, not relatives.

Having a look for Julias born in Holborn, this popped out:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NTB5-662
Julia Hatchley, daughter of Elizabeth.

No further trace of these two - the name itself might be misspelt or mistranscribed.  The main issue is that she could have easily have been baptised as Hatchley or some other name, and then taken Holland as the surname of her step-father or foster family, or been informally adopted.  She may not have even known what her original baptismal name was.
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Re: Julia Holland
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 29 August 13 19:38 BST (UK) »
Thank you for your reply. I will keep searching.

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Re: Julia Holland
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 11 September 13 15:49 BST (UK) »
Can you find any marriages of Hatchley and Holland? I have searched but could not find anything. I was hoping that her parents got married after she was baptised? Or maybe you could be right and something else happens.