Looking for John Browning of Minsterworth

[0rinoco]

I am searching for the final piece in a family history puzzle. In 1842, my gggg grandfather, William Artus, a widower, married a Susannah Looney, a widow, both of Minsterworth. 
Nobody has ever unearthed any information about Susannah, other than that she was 13 years older than William. It now seems that the reason for this may be that her married name was not  Looney, after all. After a fair bit of delving, I have discovered that her previous married surname could have been Browning.  I came across a Susannah Heskins or Haskins, who married John Browning at Minsterworth in 1784. She is exactly 13 years older than William, and there is a 39 year gap between the two marriages, which would seem fairly reasonable. What I need to know, is when did John Browning die?
I have trawled through records and registers, but come to a dead end. Can some Roots-chatter  cast some light on this, please?
Thanks.
Eric

[AMBLY]

Hi Eric

As background, when was William ARTUS born - where is he in 1841 and is he in the 1851 Census?

Cheers
AMBLY

[Wiggy]

Might William and Susannah been married earlier - this looks like them in 1841 in Minsterworth

HO107 piece 361 folio 5 page 5.

William Artus   70     b 1771       Gloucestershire

Susannah Artus 85   b 1756       Gloucestershire

Wiggy   

[AMBLY]

Just to clarify the marriage was not 1842, but rather 1823 (39 years after 1784) and also indexed here:
http://www.artus-familyhistory.com/source/Marriages%20N-Z.html


1841: Minsterworth
HO107-Piece 361/ Book 5/ Folio 5 / pg5
William ARTUS 70, Butcher, Y
Susannah ARTUS 85, Y

So looking for a John BROWNING death sometime btw 1784 & 1823!
Cheers
AMBLY

[Wiggy]

Good - well that sorts that out!     And it was to S Looney, not Browning - I also found that one.

1823 in Minsterworth Susannah Looney to William Artus

Found a marriage for Susannah Haskins in Minsterworth in 1784 to John Browning - is that the one you are looking at Eric?

Wiggy   

[AMBLY]

Here's the LOONEY-ARTUS Marriage
http://www.artus-familyhistory.com/source/Marriage%20Wm.%20and%20Susannah.html

Susannah ARTUS age 87, buried 16 Jan 1842 (born abt 1755)
William ARTUS age 80, buried 29 Nov 1848 (born abt 1768)

If this Susannah ARTUS is the same Susannah HASKINS  who married BROWNING  in 1784, she would have been around 29 or 30 in 1784. Quite old for a first marriage!

Cheers
AMBLY

[Wiggy]

There are a lot of John Browning deaths in those years - impossible to tell which is the relevant one - only one I can see in Gloucestershire is the wrong age - could be a son of that marriage though!

Others I can see are not in G'shire  Several in Hampshire which might fit the bill.     In particular on in Ringwood, Wiltshire born 1752 died 1816 - but no way of proving one way or the other from what I am looking at anyhow! 

Ambly, you might have more to go on.

Wiggy

[Wiggy]

So should there now be a marriage between Sarah Browning and ? Looney to look for?

Can't see any thus far . . . . . 

And I agree with Ambly - that seems quite old for a first marriage.

Wiggy   

[0rinoco]

Thanks for all the replies. Sorry about the confusion; I'll try to explain a little more.
William was baptized in Hawkesbury in 1768. He married his first wife, Sarah, in 1793 at Minsterworth.
Susannah Heskins was baptized in Minsterworth in 1755, hence, she and William were born 13 years apart. She married John Browning at Minsterworth in 1784.
William's wife, Sarah, died in 1820.
In 1823, he went on to marry the then 65 year-old widow, Susannah  Looney; or at least that is what it looked like.  Unfortunately, Susannah's name on the certificate is practically illegible, certainly looking nothing like Browning. However, the name Looney does not occur anywhere in the Minsterworth parish records (or anywhere else!)
The rest is conjecture, of course, but nobody else fits into the time-frame so neatly. Other names suggested for Susannah by family researchers have been Dorney and Lorney.
It now seems that the waters may be even more muddy.
Again, thanks for your help.
By the way, sod's law; there is no surname for Susannah on her signature at the bottom of the certificate. Was the vicar unsure of her name?
Eric
Eric