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Re: Buckie's Miln
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 01 June 13 04:28 BST (UK) »
Rosie, maybe you just missprinted, but his gravestone says Jamed died 1843
www.books.google.ca/books?id=LFkJAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA400&lpg=PA400&dq=Rev+James+Walker
I see where you found the reference www.books.google.ca/books?id=Ceey5RQHgHoC&pg=PA473&lpg=PA473   Monica's find is fantastic...surely looks to be good

Buckie is referred to in that publication as: Rathven [Buckie] and also Arradoul [Buckie]
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Re: Buckie's Miln
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 01 June 13 19:08 BST (UK) »
Thanks for digging JJ .. I think David Bertie/Episcopal Clergy book is right with date of death as 1842 because Mr Walker's will was proved in London 20 Jan 1843 .. the memorial tablet must have been a year out and 1843 has been repeated elsewhere.

 

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Re: Buckie's Miln
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 04 June 13 13:12 BST (UK) »
further to the other references with Rathven [Buckie] and also Arradoul [Buckie]
Can't pretend to know the area, and I am sure there were many mills in the area...or they may all refer to the same one... There are listings for: The Old Mill Clochan, Buckie...The Old Mill Arradoul , Buckie...Mill of Towie, Buckie, Banffshire
From and 1880 publication http://books.google.ca/books?id=TUULAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA336&lpg=PA336&dq=BUCKIE
Arradoul, By Buckie,still has a real estate listing for "Mill of Buckie Cottages, Buckie, Banffshire"
there are these references to a "Milne of Rathven" http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/sheena_charles/R_BirthsV1_p140.htm    and   http://canmore.rcahms.gov.uk/en/site/133271/details/mill+of+rathven/ ( see map image)
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Re: Buckie's Miln
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 04 June 13 13:39 BST (UK) »
Hi JJ - thanks for the references.

Rosie


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Re: Buckie's Miln
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 04 June 13 19:00 BST (UK) »
Can't pretend to know the area, and I am sure there were many mills in the area...or they may all refer to the same one... There are listings for: The Old Mill Clochan, Buckie...The Old Mill Arradoul , Buckie...Mill of Towie, Buckie, Banffshire

I do know the area, rather well as it happens.

Clochan, Arradoul and Buckie are all places in the parish of Rathven. None of them is in either of the others. Their modern postal addresses all include Buckie, but this should not be taken as any indication of the historical situation.

There are at least two places called Mill of Towie that spring to mind. One is at Towie in the parish of Botriphnie, and can probably be disregarded in this case. The other is near Cullen, but in the parish of Fordyce. Its modern postal address is Mill of Towie, Cullen, Buckie, Banffshire.


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Re: Buckie's Miln
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 04 June 13 22:20 BST (UK) »
So many mills ... all I have been able to find is references in various places (eg clerical directories and marriage entries) in which Rev Walker gives his father simply as "William Walker, Buckie's Miln".

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Re: Buckie's Miln
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 04 June 13 22:39 BST (UK) »
Hello Forfarian...Hehe my ramblings often bring real help!  ;D

Seriously though, that publication which had the reference to "Buckie's miln" made it seem to me as though Arradoul & Rathven were in the parish of Buckie? 

worded just like this: "Rathven [Buckie]" and also "Arradoul [Buckie]"
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Re: Buckie's Miln
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 05 June 13 09:32 BST (UK) »
Seriously though, that publication which had the reference to "Buckie's miln" made it seem to me as though Arradoul & Rathven were in the parish of Buckie? 
worded just like this: "Rathven [Buckie]" and also "Arradoul [Buckie]"

In that case, the publication is misleading. Buckie is not and never has been a parish. However it has so far outgrown all the other places in the parish of Rathven that it is not surprising that people tend to think of places in the parish of Rathven in terms of their proximity to Buckie.

David Bertie's book was published in 2000, which is recent enough for confusion to have arisen.

The modern maps show Rathven as a place on the outskirts of Buckie. This is the Kirkton of the parish of Rathven, in other words the place where the parish church is.

See
http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ4264
http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ4263
http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ4060
http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ4465
all of which are in the parish of Rathven

and
http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ5264
in which places on the west of the boundary (shown in black) are in the parish of Deskford and places to the east of the boundary are in the parish of Fordyce.
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Re: Buckie's Miln
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 05 June 13 16:20 BST (UK) »
 Yes I see it here http://www.abdnet.co.uk/genuki/BAN/Rathven/locations.html
Then I would think MonicaL's find should be the correct one, it certainly looks to be a very old building....The 1841 / 1901 census refer to the "Mill of Buckie"
Suggest Rosie contact the site she gave you   "Royal Commission on the Ancient and Historical Monuments of Scotland" to see if they know more about the era http://www.rcahms.gov.uk/contact-us.html
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